Half Baked (1998)
The principal focus of this podcast episode is the discussion surrounding the film "Half Baked," released in 1998, which features a comedic narrative centered on three not particularly astute individuals attempting to extricate a friend from incarceration through a series of absurd schemes. We delve into the merits and shortcomings of the film, examining its blend of foolish humor interspersed with moments of unexpected wit. We explore our differing perspectives on the performances, particularly that of Jim Brewer, whom I find to be an integral comedic component, while Alec expresses a profound aversion to his portrayal. Our dialogue navigates through various scenes that evoke laughter, alongside reflections on the cultural implications of the movie's themes, particularly regarding the portrayal of cannabis use in the late 1990s. Ultimately, we arrive at our ratings, encapsulating our multifaceted responses to this cinematic experience.
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See, that's so funny that you hate him.
Speaker A:This is like one of those rare times that Alec and I are on the ex.
Speaker A:Exact opposite page.
Speaker A:Because Jim Brewer, to me, is the funniest piece of this movie.
Speaker A:Like when he just ran.
Speaker A:Phooey, man.
Speaker A:Like, dude, it's so good.
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Speaker A:All right, so week four.
Speaker A:Week four, half baked.
Speaker A: ,: Speaker A:It was written by Dave Chappelle and Neil Brennan.
Speaker A:It was directed by Tamara Davis.
Speaker A:Stars Dave Chappelle, Guillermo Diaz, Jim Brewer, Harlan Williams, Rachel True, Clarence Williams iii, Laura Silverman, Tommy Chong, Greg Rogel, and David Bluestein.
Speaker A:It's about.
Speaker A:It's the story of three not so bright men who come up with a series of crazy schemes to get a friend out of jail.
Speaker A:That is one of the worst.
Speaker A:The synopsis, terrible, but this is my movie, so let me kick this off.
Speaker A:This is a movie.
Speaker A:Okay, you know my dislike of stupid humor.
Speaker A: So in: Speaker A:But like six months before this movie came out.
Speaker A:Like summer of 97 is when I moved out here.
Speaker A:So when I get out here, I'm fresh from Kentucky area, Ohio.
Speaker A:Originally, I'M not in Mormon land when I grow up though I am part of that religion at the time and you know, I have friends that are there.
Speaker A:But I had had a little bit more of a harder side to me than a lot of the people I moved here.
Speaker A:So I was like, I had all these friends and I'm like, you guys gotta go see something other than Disney.
Speaker A:I can't.
Speaker A:You're killing me here.
Speaker A:So I took a bunch of friends that we're go see a movie called Half Baked.
Speaker A:So I was like, we're going, I don't care.
Speaker A:It's gonna be raunchy, it's gonna be stupid.
Speaker A:And I'm gonna laugh at you guys getting offended by this movie.
Speaker A:Alec, I should not love this movie as much as I love this movie.
Speaker B:Yeah, you should not.
Speaker A:I shouldn't.
Speaker A:It is so.
Speaker A:And, and this is one of those movies that if Matt's were here giving me for like liking this comedy, I would be like, you're right, I can't because it's stupid.
Speaker A:Like stupid.
Speaker A:But God damn, do I. I love it.
Speaker A:And I laugh so hard every time I watch this movie.
Speaker A:And I don't know, it may be because I'm a bit of a pothead though.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:Though it's all medicinal, so I can relate to these guys.
Speaker A:Or I just think there's.
Speaker A:There's just some really.
Speaker A:In the midst of this really stupid movie, there is some very intelligent humor, but it's just, it's few and far between moments.
Speaker A:But those moments absolutely destroy me and then make me love some of the stupid as well.
Speaker A:And this movie has, it has a through line, but you forget it fucking two minutes into the movie, like, and then you don't.
Speaker A:You're like, oh, that's right.
Speaker A:There is a reason they're doing this, right?
Speaker A:Like, it's just like.
Speaker A:So it's an.
Speaker A:It's all of the things I hate about stupid comedy, but for some reason it works for me.
Speaker A:And so I was like, I've got to get this on.
Speaker A:Because I do.
Speaker A:Like, no matter what, no matter how many times I've seen it, it's just like the Hangover.
Speaker A:I laugh into tears every time, and if I'm high, it's 10 times funnier just saying.
Speaker B:Oh, I believe it 100%.
Speaker B:So I'll tell you, there's.
Speaker B:There's only one real problem I have with this movie.
Speaker B:And it's freaking Jim Brewer or Brian.
Speaker A:Really?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:As Brian.
Speaker B:Oh my gosh, I could not stand him playing kind of Your stereotypical pothead.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Down to the.
Speaker B:Down to the straight nitty gritty of being your.
Speaker A:That is so funny.
Speaker B:I could not stand him.
Speaker B:And so, like, it was.
Speaker B:It was just the fact that he.
Speaker B:He never changed faces.
Speaker A:True.
Speaker A:That's Jim Brewer, though.
Speaker B:Just.
Speaker B:Just that.
Speaker B:For two goddamn hours.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like, in every situation, it was.
Speaker B:That was just too much.
Speaker B:Now, Harlan Williams, I loved.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:Dave Chappelle.
Speaker B:Phenomenal.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:Even the guy who played Scarface.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:So, yeah, those three were so great.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:It was just so funny.
Speaker B:I was like, oh, you're ruining this entire thing for me.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker B:Because he was.
Speaker B:It was.
Speaker B:It was just almost too much.
Speaker B:And so anytime he was there, I was just like, oh, this movie.
Speaker B:JJ for putting this movie on the list.
Speaker B:Anytime he's not there.
Speaker B:Like, I. I loved it.
Speaker B:And so, like, I'll tell you, some of my favorite scenes are Harlan Williams in prison.
Speaker A:Oh, dude.
Speaker A:Hilarious.
Speaker B:Beautifully done.
Speaker B:Phenomenal.
Speaker B:Tommy Chong as freaking, like, prison badass.
Speaker B:That is so brilliant.
Speaker A:It's genius.
Speaker B:Absolute genius having this.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's set up for greatness.
Speaker B:Yeah, it is.
Speaker B:It is.
Speaker B:Really.
Speaker B:There are intelligent parts like you were talking about.
Speaker B:There's even good kind of story dialogue back and forth when you have, like, Dave Chappelle and whoever playing Samson.
Speaker B:And as he's kind of expanding the empire.
Speaker B:Empire as being the only person who still has a functioning brain in.
Speaker B:In the entire movie is.
Speaker B:So it's.
Speaker B:It's right there, and then Jim Reeven just walking across the.
Speaker B:The roof, tripping over is, you know, flip flops.
Speaker B:It's just, like.
Speaker B:It's too much.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Because you have enough goofiness with Dave Chappelle and Guillermo Diaz when they're, like, doing the heist right at the end.
Speaker B:Like, Dave Chappelle's still in this work uniform with his name tag on.
Speaker B:Like, as he's.
Speaker B:As he's robbing the place that he's worked, that he works at.
Speaker B:Like, beautiful.
Speaker B:And that's not even including the fact that Guillermo Diaz is dressed as a mime.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:For his, like, robber, you know, dress up.
Speaker B:And so, like, I think the problem is adding Jim Brewer into all these scenes where it's just, like, it's.
Speaker B:It's too much because you don't need him.
Speaker B:And without him there, like, if you cut him out of the scenes, it's almost perfect the way it is.
Speaker B:You don't need anything else.
Speaker B:And so when.
Speaker B:When he gets thrown in there, I just like, God damn it, jt.
Speaker B:Oh, is It's.
Speaker B:It's almost at that point is where you cross the line or you come over the edge and now you're being just so ridiculous and so stupid where it's.
Speaker B:It's still funny, but I'm mad that, like, actually mad that I'm laughing.
Speaker A:Yeah, see?
Speaker A:And that's so funny that you hate him.
Speaker A:This is like one of those rare times that Alec and I are on the exact, exact opposite page.
Speaker A:Because Jim Brewer, to me, is the funniest piece of this movie.
Speaker A:Like when he just ran.
Speaker A:Phooey, man.
Speaker A:Like, dude, it's so good.
Speaker A:And then like, to understand Killer, you gotta understand.
Speaker A:And that whole story of Killer the dog when they're buried in the outside tree, it's so bad.
Speaker A:But it's just.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:Yeah, he kills me in this.
Speaker A:Absolutely destroys me every time.
Speaker A:And then, like, the.
Speaker A:I got.
Speaker A:What is.
Speaker A:Oh, God.
Speaker A:Who's the singer for the Grateful Dead?
Speaker A:Jerry Garcia in a pouch.
Speaker A:Because they're just spending money on the dumbest.
Speaker A:Oh, God, I got Jerry Garcia in a pouch, man.
Speaker A:The whole way he talks.
Speaker A:But I. Jim Brewer, for me, has been one of the funniest guys even before this.
Speaker A:He was one of the only ones that I knew going into watching this.
Speaker A:Like, I had heard of Dave Chappelle, but he hadn't knocked off yet.
Speaker A:Like, he hadn't done his Chappelle Show.
Speaker A:He was just like a big guy in In Living Color every once in a while and then a couple of like, funny side bit pieces.
Speaker A:But this was his first thing that he was like, I'm gonna do this because he wrote it and then he got his.
Speaker A:The Chappelle show after.
Speaker A:But he was funny.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:But Jim Brewer, I'd watched his stand up and he's got one of the greatest stand up bits in my.
Speaker A:In my opinion, when he talks about the.
Speaker A:The different alcohols in the stomach.
Speaker A:And like, if you've never seen it, you have to watch it because it is simultaneously the smartest way to explain someone why you don't mix different alcohols.
Speaker A:And one of the funniest ways to do it ever.
Speaker A:So if you haven't watched Jim Brewers Party in the Stomach, you gotta watch it.
Speaker A:So that's what.
Speaker A:When I saw Jim brewers and I was like, I've gotta go watch this.
Speaker A:And he did not disappoint me.
Speaker A:But I will say that Guillermo Diaz, like, stole this movie for me.
Speaker A:Even with Jim Brewer being my favorite.
Speaker A:The funniest.
Speaker A:I still think the funniest sequence in this movie is when he's at that job and he's doing his like takeout and he's like, I'm done.
Speaker A:It's like, you, you, you, you, you're cool.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker A:I'm out.
Speaker A:Like we still use that line, Casey and I'll do that all the time.
Speaker A:Like you, you, you.
Speaker A:I'm out.
Speaker A:It's so good.
Speaker A:And I think that's where I love this movie is.
Speaker A:Yes, it's stupid.
Speaker A:Yes, Jim Brewer can be annoying in it.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It makes no sense in a lot of ways.
Speaker A:But man, when they have scenes that are funny, like Jon Stewart, like the different.
Speaker A:Well, let me just spread it out.
Speaker A:The different types of weed smokers that killed me, dude.
Speaker A:Knocked me on my ass every time.
Speaker B:Dude, freaking Snoop Dogg showing up as a scavenger smoker.
Speaker B:I lost it.
Speaker A:Oh God.
Speaker B:And it kind of, it kind of brings up a good kind of conversation between the two of us.
Speaker B:Because this is something you watched.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like as it came out or when it came out.
Speaker B:And so you knew pretty much everybody before they came who they were.
Speaker B:I'm going the opposite way.
Speaker B:So I know Dave Chappelle from the Chappelle show and everything that he's accomplished now.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I know Harlan Williams, he had a pretty successful career.
Speaker B:And I know Snoop Dogg.
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker B:And that's just like those three right there.
Speaker B:I mean, you could talk, you could throw in Josh Stewart and you could throw in Willie Nelson.
Speaker B:Throwing everybody in these different type of, you know, pop smokers.
Speaker B:But so I'm going back and I'm just cackling because putting Snoop in as like the frickin scavenger smoker just shows up, never has his own.
Speaker B:We just shows up and takes yours.
Speaker A:Your joint in one fucking.
Speaker B:And it's just the conversation, the by play.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Because he's even sitting there going like, dude, I barely had a hit yet.
Speaker B:Like, come on, man, let me get.
Speaker B:Let me just at least get to know the weed.
Speaker B:Or.
Speaker B:Yeah, like it's so good and then just disappears.
Speaker A:And like the professionalism in which he hits that.
Speaker A:The dope.
Speaker A:Because like the, the.
Speaker A:The double hit, like where some smoke gets out and he's like, no, no, no, to get it.
Speaker A:Oh God, dude, I.
Speaker A:It's just watching that, the whole thing.
Speaker A:And then like I said, John, still.
Speaker A:You ever seen back of a 20 bill, man?
Speaker A:Yeah, you're back with a 20 bill.
Speaker B:She Got a Gun?
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker A:Yeah, they're all.
Speaker A:And then like, I love when he goes and meets the rapper that he plays.
Speaker A:Right and he's just like, doctor said I need a blackiatomy.
Speaker A:Like, what?
Speaker A:And it's just so over the top and just ridiculous.
Speaker A:But it gets me every time.
Speaker A:And, like, the different names that they have for the weeds and.
Speaker B:Because that's.
Speaker A:I mean, that's real.
Speaker A:It's funny.
Speaker A: It was like, in: Speaker A:Like, I was in high school still, right?
Speaker A:And I just come out and we used to smoke weed back when I was in high school, me and some friends back in the day.
Speaker A:And that, like, in 98, it was still not good.
Speaker A:Like, it was taboo.
Speaker A:Like, it wasn't.
Speaker A:I don't think in 98, it was legal anywhere.
Speaker A:Like, there was nothing like that.
Speaker A:So, like, this whole introduction to this, like, community of people that get a bad rap because they're doing drugs or they're sell.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:And weed is the dumbest, you know, narcotic on the planet because there's so many things that you can legally get before, especially this time, that were way worse.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:And then you even get like.
Speaker A:And I love the fact that the culture in there, they taught that he goes to AA or whatever, the na.
Speaker A:And the dude's like, weed's not a drug.
Speaker A:Have you ever sucked dick for marijuana?
Speaker A:Like, holy.
Speaker A:Because that's the.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:And it.
Speaker A:So I loved that they took the chance to go, there are pot smokers out there.
Speaker A:We know it and everybody knows it, but let's introduce them to some level of this culture of smoking weed.
Speaker A:What's the worst thing's gonna happen is I'm gonna take a hike down to the corner store, and I'm gonna accidentally kill the horse.
Speaker A:Which also introduced one of the.
Speaker A:You hungry, girl, you.
Speaker A:It's just.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's so perfect.
Speaker A:Like, just the silliness of it gets me every time.
Speaker A:Like, even to the.
Speaker A:Like, you look at the poster on our screen there.
Speaker A:Keep off the grass.
Speaker A:Oh, my God, what a reference.
Speaker A:Beautiful.
Speaker B:It's beautiful.
Speaker B:And it's just the.
Speaker B:It.
Speaker B:It lands a lot of its jokes, and it's.
Speaker B:It's almost in the way that it's delivered is that very kind of, you know, I'm high kind of vibe.
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker B:And the jokes, it's.
Speaker B:It's hard to describe, but, like, they pull you into that kind of mindset.
Speaker B:So you could be watching stone cold sober.
Speaker B:But when you know Kenny Harlan Williams, he's in jail, he's.
Speaker B:They're like, how long can you stay there?
Speaker B:And he's like, 5, 6, 30.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Like the payoff.
Speaker B:And it's just like they all cackling and giggle.
Speaker B:But it's the long pauses, the payoffs that are, you know, awkwardly timed but seem to work because you can.
Speaker B:You're like watching it almost as if you were, you were higher.
Speaker B:You were emulating someone who is high.
Speaker B:And so you have to watch it through that lens and put yourself into that position.
Speaker B:But they do a good, A really good job of like pulling you in.
Speaker B:I think it's probably because most of the cast is stand up comedians or at some point have been stand up comedians.
Speaker B:And so it's, it's just working a crowd.
Speaker B:They just took a couple hundred, couple thousand seats and traded in for, you know, a couple million.
Speaker B:And so just because stupid little pauses and everything.
Speaker B:But the joke lands still, like.
Speaker B:And it shouldn't.
Speaker B:It shouldn't.
Speaker B:Based on what?
Speaker B:You know, with jokes, like, timing is huge and the punchline, you gotta get there and it just, it lands and I hate that.
Speaker B:I love it so much.
Speaker B:But there's some that I can't, I can't.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's too well done.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:So just cackling.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:One of the ones that I, that I.
Speaker A:When you talk about the pauses and the way is like early on when they're first, when they send what's his face out to get all the food.
Speaker A:And Brian goes through this list of like, we need graham crackers.
Speaker A:Graham crackers is the marshmallows with those little marshmallows.
Speaker A:And some chocolate bars, two big pizzas, everything on them.
Speaker A:Water ton Funyuns.
Speaker A:And like, he's all excited and then he's like, anything else?
Speaker A:And like Thurgood's like, yeah, we need that thing that, you know, we used to eat back in the day.
Speaker A:What was it called again?
Speaker A:Well, that's right.
Speaker A:And like, that one gets me because it's just so out of place.
Speaker A:But it fits with the fact that they're talking about food and eating stuff and the munchies.
Speaker A:God damn it made me laugh.
Speaker A:But yeah, like, you're right.
Speaker A:Like, they do take all this.
Speaker A:That was.
Speaker A:Would work as a stand up act.
Speaker A:Put a bunch of them together and then roll with it.
Speaker A:And then just the randomness of it too, which again is not this movie's a weirdo thing for me because it's not usually my style.
Speaker A:Like the randomness of the jokes, like at the end when they're in that fight with Samson's girls and like, they're all fighting and the Dude's like, oh.
Speaker B:Titty popped out and everybody stops.
Speaker A:Did he?
Speaker A:And that's where the fight shifts.
Speaker A:It's so weird and random, but it's not untrue.
Speaker A:Like, that's the part they like.
Speaker A:Everybody's like, titty.
Speaker B:Where.
Speaker A:Yeah, we're gonna do it.
Speaker B:I'll tell you.
Speaker B:I think the most brilliant part of this movie is the fact that the goons are also the drunk girls.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like, I was cackling because it's.
Speaker B:It's a complete 180 once again, from.
Speaker B:You know, you normally.
Speaker B:You find the biggest freaking.
Speaker B:Doesn't even have to be strong, just the biggest dude you can.
Speaker B:Big fat guy, big tall guy, whatever it is.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And that's who your drug goons are.
Speaker B:And it's the intimidation factor.
Speaker B:And this.
Speaker B:It was like, the drug girls are the goons.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:So good.
Speaker B:But it's played off.
Speaker B:Or it works so well.
Speaker B:Because while this fight's happening, you also have the cops in the, you know, stakeout van that are just high as a kite reading Thurgood's letter.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:What a.
Speaker A:It's so good.
Speaker A:I was just gonna talk about that, too.
Speaker A:I love that.
Speaker A:See, was like, we gotta.
Speaker A:I gotta have some weed.
Speaker A:He's gonna know right out the gate that something's wrong if I don't.
Speaker A:And then these guys are just absolutely blazed in the van, giggling.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker A:And I was like, oh, that's too good.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker A:They were using the word to try to get him to come in.
Speaker A:And they're like, abra.
Speaker B:Yeah, Abracadabra.
Speaker A:Why do you keep saying abracadabra?
Speaker A:Oh, God.
Speaker A:And then the Jerry Garcia pops up out of nowhere.
Speaker A:So random and stupid, but I'm just like, why is this funny to me?
Speaker A:Because it shouldn't be.
Speaker A:But God damn, do I laugh a lot.
Speaker A:And then at the end, too, like, where he's sitting on the bridge and he's like, I'm gonna give it up.
Speaker A:He's talking to the joint and he's like, I know you think it.
Speaker A:Thoroughgood sold out.
Speaker A:And don't get me wrong, I love weed.
Speaker A:I love it.
Speaker A:Not as much as I love.
Speaker A:And again, I'm like, yeah, I could see that.
Speaker B:Yeah, if you hate him, but he makes a lot of sense.
Speaker B:It's hard to argue with the man.
Speaker A:Oh, it's too good.
Speaker A:Too good.
Speaker A:So many quotable things, too.
Speaker A:Like where he's like, I don't do drugs, just weed.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:And it's funny now that I think, too, because back in 98.
Speaker A:Like I, I had in the past.
Speaker A:But I did give it up for a little while.
Speaker A:Like all that stuff for a few years.
Speaker A:And so it was like one of those things where I was like, man, miss weed.
Speaker A:But again, I also don't look at it as like hard drive.
Speaker A:I don't know, maybe we might get in trouble for this in YouTube, but I don't give a.
Speaker A:Talking a lot about weed.
Speaker A:It's the topic of the movie.
Speaker B:It's the topic of the movie.
Speaker A:Can't help it.
Speaker B:That center bot.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:So funny.
Speaker A:I love horses.
Speaker A:I love butter stuff.
Speaker A:Buttercup.
Speaker A:Say it.
Speaker A:Butternuts.
Speaker A:He did a great job.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:There's just so many funny parts, but shouldn't be funny.
Speaker B:See, not.
Speaker B:It's, it's tricky because I for.
Speaker B:I've only watched this once and it was for this.
Speaker B:And I have a love hate relationship with this because most of the, most of what I can't stand, unfortunate as is, comes from Jim Brewer.
Speaker B:Like, outside of that, I really had a good time watching this movie.
Speaker B:And I'm looking at it, you know, going like there's, there's only bits and pieces of it that would be like, that shouldn't be funny.
Speaker B:But it is.
Speaker B:A lot of it is.
Speaker B:Is that kind of intelligent humor where it's you, you hit the nail on the head with this.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:They just took a stand up routine and extended it a little bit and added more people into it to make it more like a play.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so you like, it's, it's the ridiculousness is over the top.
Speaker B:But if you look at through that lens, like any problem that could be there goes out the window.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because even like the.
Speaker B:What could be the over the top?
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:It's a, it's a plot point in the movie.
Speaker B:But is the 1 million bail for being an officer, you know, killer.
Speaker B:And it's the horse.
Speaker B:And so that whole thing where it's almost played off is you're like, oh, cool.
Speaker B:Like the, the cop's gonna be cool, but he's just upset about the horse.
Speaker B:And then in like 20 seconds, dude goes from being on the street corner of the liquor store or the corner store to being in jail, no bail, except, you know, a million dollar bail for this.
Speaker B:And, and it's, it's stupid like that.
Speaker B:You know, first of all, hands off to the justice system in this movie.
Speaker B:Freaking fast as.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But it's like, you know, it's hard to connect those dots or just suspend the disability disbelief.
Speaker B:But if you look at it through, like the storytelling of a comic or a comedian getting up there, it's like, oh, no.
Speaker B:Like, I've seen this exact joke or I've seen this story played out before with some of the, you know, mainstream comedians that are out there.
Speaker B:And George Lopez, or you've got Dave.
Speaker B:Dave Chappelle, who's just, you know, transferred.
Speaker B:Do the same thing.
Speaker B:It's like, you know, when you listen to Dave Chappelle tell a story, it's the exact same lens, like, hasn't changed.
Speaker B:He's just expanded on what he's doing.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And so it's hard because I look at him like, you know, I really like this movie except for freaking Jim.
Speaker B:Like, so it was just like that.
Speaker B:That little bit too much.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:In every scene he was in touch where the.
Speaker B:I think the others carried it so much better work together.
Speaker B:And then he's just kind of like the too much icing on top.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's a.
Speaker B:It's a tricky one for me.
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker A:And to your point, like I said, there's so much intelligence.
Speaker A:Like, and I.
Speaker A:We talked about the, you know, the.
Speaker A:On weed guy, like with Jon Stewart, but another one was.
Speaker A:That was really funny, was.
Speaker A:Oh, God, the.
Speaker A:What's the other famous family that I can't.
Speaker B:Baldwin.
Speaker A:Baldwin, yeah.
Speaker B:MacGyver guy.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I ever smoker where he's like, we don't have a pipe.
Speaker A:Well, give me my snore.
Speaker A:Like, give me an avocado and then something my.
Speaker A:My snorkel.
Speaker A:We don't have a corkscrew.
Speaker A:Well, then get me this.
Speaker A:This.
Speaker A:They're very handy to have around, you know what I mean?
Speaker B:Like that.
Speaker A:That line.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:Oh, what was the other one that always gets me.
Speaker A:Oh, like when he comes home with the weed the first time, he's like, guys, I got some weed from my job.
Speaker A:You want to smoke it?
Speaker A:He's like, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker A:Should we.
Speaker A:Yeah, go get Billy Bong Thornton.
Speaker A:Oh, can't do Billy Bong Thornton without what's his face.
Speaker A:And he's like, I get Wesley Pipes.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's just.
Speaker A:You're right.
Speaker A:Like, there's such.
Speaker A:It's this stupid ass overlaid with extremely intelligent comedy and lines like.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I mean, it's a good, good comparison of like, you have a.
Speaker A:It's stand up that stretched into a movie.
Speaker A:I like that analogy.
Speaker A:All right, should we rate it?
Speaker B:Let's do it.
Speaker A:Man, this was such a conundrum for me because I think it's an absolutely terrible movie in so many ways, and yet it makes me laugh.
Speaker A:Like that's.
Speaker A:It fits this theme of the month so good because I can't help but laugh.
Speaker A:I'm gonna give it a three and a half.
Speaker A:There are some really wonky parts and I think they're.
Speaker A:To your point.
Speaker A:To me it's not as much Jim Brewer, but the whole movie and general can kind of go one step too far sometimes.
Speaker A:But that's also very typical of this group of individuals.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:Like Dave Chappelle always takes it to as far as he can go.
Speaker A:And so that's no different here.
Speaker A:But man, when it lands, dude, like, it lands so good that I just still to this day.
Speaker A:And I know all the jokes, I know most of the lines.
Speaker A:Seen this a million times, but I laugh just as hard every single time I watch it, including when I saw it in the theater as like a 17 year old.
Speaker A:Oh my God, dude, I laughed so hard.
Speaker A:And yeah, it's wonderful.
Speaker A:So yeah, there it is.
Speaker A:Three and a half for me.
Speaker A:Some things that wasn't perfect, but God damn, is it funny.
Speaker B:I'm actually glad because I was worried I was going to come in ahead of you there for a second, but I'm gonna put it at three.
Speaker A:There you go.
Speaker B:And it's Jim Brewer.
Speaker B:Like, I feel like a broken record at the same time, but I think you take him out and I'm gonna go look at his comedy stuff and things because it was, I, I have a feeling it was just this movie, this character.
Speaker B:Yeah, that was really just too much because I think you take him out and you have the other three and I mean, you just do Guillermo Diaz, Dave Chappelle and Couch Guy, right?
Speaker B:You, you recruit Couch Guy into the crew to be your third to go get Kenny out of jail.
Speaker B:And now you have the makings of a really actually well done movie and a really much better one.
Speaker B:But like, as he's playing a great role, he plays a role well.
Speaker B:Oh yeah, Jim Brewer plays a role well.
Speaker B:But hot damn, do I hate his guts the entire time through it.
Speaker B:And it's, it's just, just that step too far where you don't need it.
Speaker B:So I.
Speaker B:So it's like either gotta pull everybody back or get rid of him to make work.
Speaker B:I think you get rid of him, you let everybody else do their thing and it's still hilarious, but by throwing him in there, you go a little bit too far.
Speaker B:And I'm just mad at his, at his facial expressions, his line delivery and everything else.
Speaker B:Kind of coupled in because it's, it's like, dude, I didn't need that much.
Speaker B:I've already got enough with the cast surrounding you.
Speaker B:And because you're, you're all the way in Looney Town.
Speaker B:Like, you're.
Speaker B:It's just too much for me to, you know, make the movie better.
Speaker B:It makes it worse in my mind.
Speaker B:So I'm gonna give it three.
Speaker B:I will watch it again though.
Speaker B:Like it's something that I'll sit down, I'll watch again.
Speaker B:Because when it, when it's good, it lands really well.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:And there's plenty of parts where it's good.
Speaker B:So yeah, three for me.
Speaker A:Love it.
Speaker A:I love introducing you to fun new movies.
Speaker A:It's always fun.
Speaker B:Some are blocked better than others.
Speaker A:True.
Speaker A:That's true.
Speaker A:I do have some weird.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So when we're not talking about Mary Jane, where else can people find us.
Speaker B:My friend, I will say having this love interest be Mary Jane was pure comedy gold.
Speaker B:Beautiful, beautiful.
Speaker B:So best place to find us is on YouTube.
Speaker B:It's where you can see our smiling faces get, you know, the, the real full what's our Verdict Podcast experience.
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Speaker B:So we vote on movies or we have movies that we put out for votes.
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Speaker B:All the way up full length episodes of movies that we watch so nobody else would have to.
Speaker B:And that's a little bit of paywall.
Speaker B:But you do get upwards.
Speaker B:I think we're close to passing or half past 600 additional videos episodes of content on Patreon.
Speaker B:So there's plenty out there to explore.
Speaker B:Great bang for your buck.
Speaker B:Like JJ mentioned at the beginning, special thanks to our patrons Rich and cb.
Speaker B:They are phenomenal at keeping us going and giving us new and fresh ideas.
Speaker B:I think our next couple months the topics were selected by CB Charles for putting those out.
Speaker B:For putting those out for us.
Speaker B:So appreciate that.
Speaker B:And with that, I'll kick it back to let's see the Mauling Monarch.
Speaker B:The let's do Wise year of WAP again.
Speaker B:JJ Makes me happy.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Look, as always, we appreciate you tuning in.
Speaker A:We'll catch you on the next one.
Speaker B:Hasta la vista, baby.
Speaker A:Cinematica.
