The Goonies (1985)
JJ, Mattson and Alec delve into the cinematic masterpiece "The Goonies," which is celebrated for its nostalgic value and lasting appeal. We engage in a thorough analysis of the film's narrative, which follows a group of misfit children on a thrilling quest to uncover hidden treasure, thereby embodying the spirit of adventure and camaraderie. The episode highlights the exceptional performances of the young cast, notably Sean Astin, Josh Brolin, and Corey Feldman, while also appreciating the film's blend of humor and poignant moments that resonate with audiences of all ages. Furthermore, we reflect on the significance of practical effects utilized in the film, contrasting it with modern CGI techniques that often detract from the authenticity of storytelling. Ultimately, we express our unequivocal admiration for "The Goonies," asserting its status as a quintessential film that continues to inspire and entertain generations.
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And I've been asked is, you know, once I got fat Shuffle Shuffle.
Speaker A:Which I've done quite a few times.
Speaker A:Enough alcohol.
Speaker A:Or good friend of mine named Mary Jane.
Speaker A:And I'll definitely truffle shuffle.
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Speaker A:Summer kickoff movies.
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Speaker A:Just summer movies I think is good.
Speaker A:And this week's a doozy.
Speaker A:We're hitting it off with the Goonies.
Speaker A:It was released.
Speaker A:Oh, I missed freaking did my thing.
Speaker A:Look at me looking like a.
Speaker A:Again.
Speaker B: It was released in: Speaker A:June 7th to be exact.
Speaker A: In: Speaker A:It was written by Christopher Columbus and Steven Spielberg.
Speaker A:It was directed by Richard Donner.
Speaker A:Stars Sean Astin, Josh Brolin, Jeff Cohen, Corey Feldman, Carrie Green, Martha Plimpton, Kihu Kwan, John Matusak.
Speaker A:I love that name.
Speaker A:Robert Davy, Joe Pantoliano and Ann Ramsay.
Speaker A:It's about a group of young misfits called the Goonies who discover an ancient map and set out on an adventure to find a legendary pirates long lost treasure.
Speaker A:Great synopsis and the fact that you can give a one sentence synopsis just tells me that this movie's great.
Speaker A:I love it.
Speaker A:This was my pick because Matson foregoed it for.
Speaker A:He gave it up because he knew he.
Speaker A:Yeah, he voted too many and so he chose other three.
Speaker A:So I stole it.
Speaker A:It was on my list to begin with, but I always let these knuckleheads choose first, which has been much to my demise a couple of times.
Speaker B:But JJ Scooter, you love our movie picks.
Speaker A:No, I'm meeting you guys will pick them and I go God damn it.
Speaker A:Now I gotta figure something else out for the topic.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:So I was happy that this one stayed on it because this may be my favorite childhood movie of all time.
Speaker A:It's arguably my favorite childhood movie of all time.
Speaker A:Sandlot's up there.
Speaker A:But this one I think probably got watched as much as the Star wars saga, which for me, anyone that knows me, these guys will attest is that's saying a lot.
Speaker A:So I love this movie.
Speaker A:It's hilarious, it's relatable, it's wild, it's all over the place, it's out there, it's ridiculous.
Speaker A:But it's God damn a good time.
Speaker A:And it's funny and it's just like, it's just.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like it's wholesome and it's fun and I just like relate to it.
Speaker A:Again, we talked about this in the last podcast, but the hijinks that I got up to as a kid, like it takes me back to that.
Speaker A:Even though we didn't do anything as ridiculous as go pirate hunting and run into criminals and go into caves and.
Speaker A:But man, we did some dumb.
Speaker A:So it's like, it's just real fun and I just.
Speaker B:Have you been to where they filmed a lot of this in Oregon?
Speaker A:I have.
Speaker A:In fact, as you know, there's a plan to possibly move there at some point like this.
Speaker A:Astoria, Oregon is where Casey and I have looked at a lot of properties there about.
Speaker B:Hey, trying to get JJ move a little bit More north than that, but yeah, a lot closer than where he is.
Speaker A:But I love it there.
Speaker A:The temps are great, the weather's great.
Speaker A:It's perfect for me.
Speaker A:So, yeah, we've been looking at it, but yeah, I, I love this movie.
Speaker A:I think it's great.
Speaker A:I think it's funny.
Speaker A:I think for a bunch of child actors, they're really good.
Speaker A:And like, it's rare that you get this many child actors that are this good in one place.
Speaker A:And it's just, it's fun.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker B:All right, jg, some trivia for you.
Speaker B:Which, in this, which actor in this movie and this.
Speaker B:It's not like a, like little known actor.
Speaker B:Like which one of these actors made their debut in this film?
Speaker A:Debut?
Speaker A:I would have assumed that a lot of them, but Sean Aston.
Speaker B:Not a bad guess.
Speaker A:Jj, I'm gonna say Cohen.
Speaker A:Jeff Cohen.
Speaker B:Close.
Speaker B:It was Joshy Brolin.
Speaker A:Was it really?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Interesting.
Speaker A:I did not know that.
Speaker A:I wouldn't have guessed that.
Speaker B:Thinking of all these childhood act that many of them, I mean, went on to do some very big thing.
Speaker B:I mean, two of them, Josh Brolin and Sean Asin, are, I mean, legendary.
Speaker B:But Kihu Quan, I mean, one of the most annoying actors I can think of, but also one of the most psychotic.
Speaker A:Well, he's.
Speaker A:I love his resurgence.
Speaker B:Like, I will say, I will say, yes, I was about to say his resurgence has been quite.
Speaker B:But I should say one of the most.
Speaker B:But I, I still.
Speaker B:Dr.
Speaker B:Joe, I mean, he just had the.
Speaker B:He just had his thing, but you can't have the movies without it.
Speaker B:But like, when I look at this cast, I'm like, oh my gosh.
Speaker B:Like, they really, they just, they killed it.
Speaker B:But also, another trivia question.
Speaker B:How do I ask this without.
Speaker B:I mean, I can't.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's already, I've already kind of given it away.
Speaker B:But I'm curious, jj, did you know that the pirate ship in this film was actually built to scale 105ft?
Speaker B:The cast did not see it until they finally shot those scenes.
Speaker A:Yeah, when they turn around and it's like, oh, like that was real reaction.
Speaker A:I know because they did a documentary or there was some filming where they, they did an interview with a bunch of these guys and they talked about that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Not a trivia question, but last question for you.
Speaker B:What is your favorite chunk scene?
Speaker A:Oh, dude, it's the shuffle shuffle.
Speaker A:Ah, it's so tough though, because the shuffle shuffle's great.
Speaker A:There's three.
Speaker A:I'm gonna.
Speaker A:There has to be three.
Speaker A:The Truffle shuffle when he runs through the door because.
Speaker A:And then when he knocks over the water thing and he's like, I got it, I got it, I don't got it.
Speaker A:Like, I use that line my whole life.
Speaker A:Like, I'll say some.
Speaker A:I'm like, nope, didn't do it.
Speaker A:So, yeah, I can't narrow it down to one.
Speaker A:But the Truffle shuffle still to this day makes my fat ass laugh.
Speaker A:Like, I was gonna ask if that was.
Speaker B:Like, you just resonate with that in, in ways that I never could.
Speaker A:Well, as an adult, yes.
Speaker A:As a kid, I wasn't fat, so I didn't.
Speaker A:When I was a kid, other than I had some fat friends.
Speaker A:And so I was like, well, I'm gonna make them do the truffle shuffle.
Speaker A:But as a fat adult, yeah, I love that.
Speaker A:And I've been asked is, you know, once I got fat, shuffle, shuffle, which I've done quite a few times, enough alcohol, or a good friend of mine named Mary Jane, and I'll definitely Truffle shuffle, no questions.
Speaker A:But yeah, I love Chunk.
Speaker A:He's my favorite.
Speaker B:Speaking of that, one of my.
Speaker B:I don't remember when I came across them.
Speaker B:Probably like five years ago, six years ago.
Speaker B:There's a band that's called Chunk.
Speaker B:No, Captain Chunk.
Speaker B:And they have some of my favorite songs.
Speaker B:And like a lot of other songs they started with.
Speaker B:They take out that little sound bite.
Speaker B:And so I think.
Speaker B:I mean, I think of the Goonies very probably.
Speaker B:I mean, probably almost weekly because of that and just makes me laugh.
Speaker B:But for me, I'm trying to remember when I first saw this.
Speaker B:I saw this movie a lot later.
Speaker B:Probably like early teens maybe, or like late childhood, something like that.
Speaker B:My older siblings had seen this and talked a lot about this movie.
Speaker B:This movie falls in line with the type of movies I like, like Indiana Jones style.
Speaker B:So, I mean, I love this movie.
Speaker B:I think it's just like a.
Speaker B:A kid version of what I love about Indiana Jones in a of a sense.
Speaker B:I don't think it has.
Speaker B:It doesn't carry the nostalgia level that it has for jj.
Speaker B:If I had seen it even earlier on, or especially growing up with that, like, this movie would probably be within my, like top 10 for sure.
Speaker B:But that's not saying this isn't a good movie.
Speaker B:I just don't have that, like, deep rooted nostalgia feel.
Speaker B:But it's a fun movie.
Speaker B:Like, I mean, just like we talked about Sandlot the week prior, like, this movie makes you want to go back and find that adventure that you Found that you imagine you're like, man, they actually did it.
Speaker B:Granted, I mean, it's not going to go that way.
Speaker B:You're not going to find someone like Sloth and all those different things.
Speaker B:But it's great.
Speaker B:Like, I think it just epitomizes what you wish you would have found as a kid and gone on that journey and beat the bad guys and experience that as a.
Speaker B:As a friend group and had that for the rest of your lives.
Speaker B:I think it's like the.
Speaker B:The anti it movie because it is like something like that and they have like the trauma with that.
Speaker B:But this one is like, fun.
Speaker B:And yeah, they're in danger, but, you know, it doesn't ever really feel like that.
Speaker B:It's the type of childhood adventure we wish we always had.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Alec, what about you?
Speaker A:I'm always intrigued when we do older movies because I know you love old movies.
Speaker A:I know you love hinky shit like this.
Speaker A:Like, I do.
Speaker A:And so I'm always curious, but I never know because sometimes you, like, find things really goofy and then you're like this thing.
Speaker A:So I'm curious.
Speaker C:No, I like the Goonies, but I like the weird parts of the Goonies.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker C:Like, Sloth is amazing.
Speaker A:Oh, Sloth's great.
Speaker A:Sloth.
Speaker C:I love Sloth.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:But it's the.
Speaker C:What really, really, this movie is.
Speaker C:It's like they take child actors, but instead of making them act like adults, they let him act like kids.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And so like the truffle shuffle and.
Speaker C:Or like, you know, picking on your fat friend and not letting them date until he does a couple shuffle.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Kid thing.
Speaker C:And then, I mean, they just turn it up the entire, you know, just let the kids loose almost.
Speaker C:And so like another really funny one or funny part of the movie that I enjoy.
Speaker C:It's not supposed to be funny, but when the Fratelli's have Chunk and they're trying to make him talk.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:Starts telling his life story.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's so good.
Speaker C:It feels like Steven Spielberg and.
Speaker C:Or whoever has actually directed.
Speaker C:It's like, hey, just go and just let Chunk do Chunk.
Speaker C:And so you have this thing where they're not trying to force these child actors to play adult roles.
Speaker C:They just let them act like they naturally would have as kids.
Speaker C:And, you know, you got your buddies together and you're goofing off and you're, you know, picking on your older brother or whatever, ganging up on him.
Speaker C:And so it's.
Speaker C:It's cool in that sense where they kind of captured this, you know, feeling of the kids are allowed to be kids throughout this movie, and they're not held to some adult standard while they're acting.
Speaker C:They're just like, turn on the camera.
Speaker C:Let's go.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker B:They don't.
Speaker B:They don't make them older than they need to be.
Speaker B:Because I've seen some other movies where you're like, wow, they're so mature in there, like, which can work in some settings.
Speaker B:But you.
Speaker B:That's what makes this movie great, is like, you can identify who you would be in that group and kind of relive through that.
Speaker A:Yeah, I.
Speaker A:And to piggyback on that, Alec, I like to that it makes the fact that they let them be goofy and silly and carefree and not understand half the time the danger that they're actually in as kids do.
Speaker A:It also makes the.
Speaker A:The very mature and adult moments that they have as kids that more poignant.
Speaker A:Like, one of my favorite parts, even as a kid and now even more so as an adult, is when Mouth gives his penny speech in the.
Speaker A:The wishing well part where he's like, no, this one's mine, and I'm taking it back.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:Like, that's one of those things where as a kid, like.
Speaker A:And even match it to your point, when we were talking about Sandlot, you talk about, I'd love to go back there and, you know, be that level of a kid.
Speaker A:Because adulting sucks.
Speaker A:And sometimes we forget that as an adult, we're like, man, life is so challenging and we have so many responsibilities.
Speaker A:That being a kid was so much more carefree and fun.
Speaker A:But as kids, we had our own sets of issues.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Like, we had our own things that made life difficult.
Speaker A:And especially, like, a group of kids like this where they're dealing with something that they don't fully understand other than the fact that they know that they're going to have to move and that their parents are having a hard time.
Speaker A:And, like, so often I don't think kids get the credit for how off.
Speaker A:How much they can see how difficult it is for their parents and the struggles that they're having.
Speaker A:And so to watch Mouth have that moment and then you have, you know, even, like, every one of them.
Speaker A:And I think that's another thing I love about this movie, is every one of these kids gets at least a moment.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:To shine in a comedic way and then in a serious way.
Speaker A:And it works every single time.
Speaker A:And I think because these characters are so relatable, and I get at least I get so I'm attached to these guys, right?
Speaker A:Like, I.
Speaker A:I want to go hang out with this group of kids and now I want to go hang out with these group of adults.
Speaker A:You see them as adults, they've done interviews.
Speaker A:I'm like, fuck, I want to go chat with these guys because they still look like they have a good time and bust Jeff Cohen's ass now, even though he's skinny as hell.
Speaker A:But it's like, yeah, I just think.
Speaker A:I think what is done in this movie and it's a.
Speaker A:It's a testament to Christopher Columbus.
Speaker A:Chris Columbus's writing and Steven Spielberg's writing, the fact that they have those moments and they hit so hard that you're like, yeah, man, go deeper into the cave.
Speaker A:Like, figure it out.
Speaker A:Like, Goonies never say die.
Speaker A:And the fact that she sends up that sweater and that, like, I just love all the back and forth that you can have such a great time, but then you have moments where you're like, oh, man, this is about a serious thing.
Speaker A:Like, they're in a serious situation and they're kids and they don't get it fully, but we as adults do, right?
Speaker A:So it's interesting.
Speaker A:I love that part of the movie.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker A:And it's just funny.
Speaker A:Like, Mouth sticking his tongue through the painting.
Speaker A:It's so disrespectful.
Speaker A:And then the last two weeks, I.
Speaker A:I was always wondered, but it's me, so I'm gonna bring it up.
Speaker A:I was like, do I haven't bring this out, but I'm gonna.
Speaker A:Because it's me.
Speaker A:We have two movies now that if you think about it, there were some serious age gap relationships happening.
Speaker A:We had Sandlot, the freaking.
Speaker B:Peppercorn.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Whitney Honeys.
Speaker A:And then there's the.
Speaker A:Was brand.
Speaker A:Was Brand.
Speaker A:Were you standing in a hole like, she's making out with his little brother, like, oh, God.
Speaker B:So that's the 80s where.
Speaker B:80s, early 90s, they really wanted those.
Speaker B:What wouldn't have been like if you were in your 20s.
Speaker B:It wouldn't have mattered.
Speaker B:But weird.
Speaker B:It's like the great divide when you're 13.
Speaker B:Like 13 and they're 17.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:That just matters in.
Speaker B:In many ways.
Speaker B:Like you're a 14 year old.
Speaker B:You want to be hanging out with a person in the grade level where the new your cool neuter drops by like 50.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Good old Mikey.
Speaker A:So funny.
Speaker A:I love that he's like stumbling and after.
Speaker B:Gotta shoot your shot, though.
Speaker A:Yeah, Love it, love it.
Speaker A:So many good moments.
Speaker A:Like, I.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:I could Sit and talk about this one like freaking data.
Speaker A:When he pinches of power.
Speaker A:Pinches of power is the freaking goofy dental teeth like save his ass or the boxing glove that hits like knocks them back down the hill.
Speaker A:The Fratellis.
Speaker A:Because there's so many stupid moments that are just so entertaining and fun and as goofy as they are.
Speaker A:Like in a normal movie that would bother me.
Speaker A:Like in this one it doesn't like one specifically like Casey always gives me because he's the only one.
Speaker A:Like she doesn't love this movie because she doesn't, it's not her kind of thing.
Speaker A:She didn't have this fun loving childhood that I can remember.
Speaker A:And so it's one of those things where it's true.
Speaker C:Little drag, just a fun sucker.
Speaker A:She looks is, it goes.
Speaker A:I, I didn't have, have that kind of fun when I was a kid.
Speaker A:Like we, we did other things but it wasn't that.
Speaker A:And so like I was, I'm always like, yeah, this is so relatable to me.
Speaker A:But like I don't usually love movies that put stupid sound effects that don't need to be there.
Speaker A:Like when he hits him with the glove and he shakes his head and it's like that I, I, I like, I like normally that'll piss me off, but it just makes me laugh in this movie just because it just doesn't have a place for it.
Speaker A:Or like when they're on the log and he squirts the oil on the tree log and they like does you like the really high pitched noise of them slipping?
Speaker A:Like to me it just adds value to this movie because of the extremes, right?
Speaker B:This little 12 year old JJ inside just making his way out, telling you.
Speaker A:Telling you so funny.
Speaker A:It's great stuff.
Speaker A:And the one liners in this dude.
Speaker A:Oh my gosh, there's just so many of them.
Speaker A:Whether it's funny or serious.
Speaker A:Like I, again I go back to the moment we were talking about with Chunk.
Speaker A:Like when they're standing outside the restaurant, it's locked and he's like talking about these pictures of his sister and he just gets more and more, that's it.
Speaker A:They all move as he goes running through the door and then all they do is walk in.
Speaker A:Thanks Chunk.
Speaker A:Walk by his ass or him smelling and he's like, I smell rocky road ice cream.
Speaker B:So yeah, you already mentioned.
Speaker B:What I love is when chunks just like saying everything.
Speaker B:But I think he, he was finally like, I'll talk.
Speaker B:One time in third grade I cheated on like my, my history test or something.
Speaker B:Just like, it just like spouts off and it makes me so happy.
Speaker B:But I mean, there's two.
Speaker B:The most iconic quotes, like, hey, you guys.
Speaker B:And then the one that I.
Speaker B:I love, Cobra Kai.
Speaker B:And I swear they must have got inspired from Goonies never say die, because Cobra Kai never dies.
Speaker B:Yeah, the Goonies never die, though.
Speaker B:Like that.
Speaker B:That's the one that always sticks with me because that's.
Speaker B:And hey, you guys are the two things that comes up every so often and I'll say it in conversation or something or like, find a way to weave it in.
Speaker B:And they're the most, like, well known ones, but they're well known for a reason.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:To Alex point.
Speaker A:Sloth is great.
Speaker A:Sloth.
Speaker A:Sloth love.
Speaker A:Chunk.
Speaker A:Knocks his ass over.
Speaker A:So good.
Speaker A:Baby Ruth.
Speaker A:Like, that's the one that I always.
Speaker A:Baby Ruth.
Speaker A:Oh, so good.
Speaker A:So good.
Speaker A:But I think.
Speaker A:Go ahead.
Speaker B:I was gonna say one thing I like about this movie is the, The.
Speaker B:The practical effects.
Speaker B:I mean, to make Sloth look the way that he did.
Speaker B:And we talked about the.
Speaker B:The ship that they built.
Speaker B:Like, it's.
Speaker B:It's a.
Speaker B:It's a gone air.
Speaker B:You made this movie today.
Speaker B:So much cgi and, like, would it.
Speaker B:Can we do great cgi?
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:But we've talked about this so many times through the years.
Speaker B:We've gotten lazy where they can blue screen, green screen things.
Speaker B:And I think because we do that so much, it's really like, I was watching a video on Star Wars Episode 3 when they were doing the lightsaber battle between Hayden Christensen and Ewan McGregor and like, just incredible.
Speaker B:Like, the fact that they did what they did and talked through it all and moved so far when they were just literally looking at each other and there was obviously no, I mean, nothing there.
Speaker B:And I get to.
Speaker B:There's a lot of things in movies where you can't build everything and make it look like that because we just.
Speaker B:We don't have the stuff in this earth to make it look like that.
Speaker B:But I think nowadays we rely so much on it and just say, hey, go act that.
Speaker B:But I'm trying to transport myself on people's shoes like that.
Speaker B:If you don't have those surroundings and you can't see, like, man, just makes it hard to generate those emotions and, like, the realism.
Speaker B:And like Jay said, the cast didn't see the ship until they literally filmed that.
Speaker B:And I'm confident it made that scene better.
Speaker B:Like, they, especially for childhood, act like it probably would have been even harder for them to get into the zone back.
Speaker B:Hey, the ship's right there, but you won't see it till we actually release the movie because we have to build it post production.
Speaker B:And that's what I like about movies like Jurassic park and Goonies and so many other movies we could talk about that came out during this era where they still.
Speaker B:They could do special effects, but they didn't rely upon them.
Speaker B:They use them as an.
Speaker B:Like an accent piece and still built a lot of the things relied upon makeup and build the sets.
Speaker B:I think there's power not.
Speaker B:And I wish we would get back to some of that because I think it made movies more real and helped actors get into the zones that they needed to.
Speaker B:And I think that's part of the magic of this movie because you can see they built, like, almost everything on this and it worked like a look when.
Speaker B:That's part of why it stands up to the test of time.
Speaker B:Because if they did all predominantly CGI back then, we've seen movies that relied a lot on that back then.
Speaker B:It obviously looks terrible.
Speaker B:Like the Mummy, for instance.
Speaker B:Just like they should have just.
Speaker B:Should have just tried to make it without cgi.
Speaker B:And they could have fallen in the same pitfall in this movie if they wanted to.
Speaker B:It would have been so easy.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's a long winded way to say.
Speaker B:Like, I just.
Speaker B:I love that they stay true to that in this movie.
Speaker B:And I wish movies today would really think about that again and be more intentional when and where they used it.
Speaker B:But I know it costs a ton of money, but also CGI these days costs of freaking buku cash.
Speaker B:So, like, I don't know, kind of pick your poison.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's a tough one.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:Like, but I'm with you.
Speaker A:Like, I think it's great.
Speaker A:And I think the fact that they were on that ship and all the different gold pieces and like, the different, you know, the skeletons and the.
Speaker A:The stuff that they built and had there, like, to act around.
Speaker A:And I think, you know, you can tell when something's blue screen or green screen, like, no matter what.
Speaker A:Like, in fact, I was watching the Last of Us, season two, and they're walking through Seattle.
Speaker A:And I understand that, like, you can't have, like, the.
Speaker A:This grand landscape of Seattle 30 years from now all run down and overgrown and because the world's ended.
Speaker A:But, like, the fact that there was.
Speaker A:There was one scene, and I don't remember what it was, but they were standing basically in a room, and I was like, you really put green screen for a room.
Speaker B:It's like you could have built aspects of the room and then superimpose the rest of it behind.
Speaker B:Like that's just lazy with you.
Speaker A:It's not even like a big set piece to build.
Speaker A:Like I'm pretty sure it was like a couple of desks and some.
Speaker A:I was like, I'll come build it for you, for crying out loud.
Speaker A:Like Jesus, like the hell it's great.
Speaker A:But you can tell because like it doesn't look natural, right?
Speaker A:Like it looks.
Speaker A:And so I love the fact that that's one of my favorite parts of.
Speaker A:No matter how bad an old 80s or night early 90s movie is, I love that I don't look at it and go, was that green screen?
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:Or I look at it and go, that's green screen.
Speaker A:I I go, look, they're in a cave.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Or they're in a, a set that's been made to look like a cave.
Speaker A:And then there's a big ass 105 foot ship in a sound stage filled with water, you know, and then if you watch a shitty outdoor cut scene, there's a really crappy octopus that's, that's nat.
Speaker A:It's actual props and touching them on the legs and that they cut out because it looked horrible.
Speaker A:But they got to make those choices, right?
Speaker A:Whereas the cgi.
Speaker A:The other thing that CGI to me does is it empowers movies to do things that they shouldn't.
Speaker A:It was like, oh, we can CGI it.
Speaker A:I would be curious if Goonies were made today by the same group of people, would we still have an octopus scene in there?
Speaker A:Because, oh, we can make a.
Speaker A:And look an octopus with cgi.
Speaker A:When in reality the reason it worked when it cut it is because it didn't make sense to have the octopus there.
Speaker A:Like there's no value in that octopus.
Speaker A:One, it looked like, but two, it didn't add to the story.
Speaker A:They've been through enough.
Speaker A:Like they literally just got done fighting criminals and dealing with a freaking bunch of booby traps.
Speaker A:Booty traps.
Speaker A:That's what I said.
Speaker A:Booty traps.
Speaker A:And like, I mean they just wrote a cool ass water slide.
Speaker A:Like why do I give a about an octopus?
Speaker A:Like just let us see the ship and bask in the awe of that versus some of that.
Speaker A:So I think that's also a testament to this.
Speaker A:The geniuses that worked on this film.
Speaker A:Like, look, you got two of the greatest writers and filmmakers with Spielberg and Chris Columbus and then Richard Donner's no slouch either when it comes to making movies.
Speaker A:And so the level of genius there and capability that's there was.
Speaker A:Is a testament to this movie as well and the choices that they made.
Speaker A:But yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker A:Like the practical effect piece of this movie is.
Speaker A:Is huge because everything's real, you know, in some way shape or form or at least made to look real.
Speaker A:And I love it.
Speaker A:Such good dialogue.
Speaker A:Like I.
Speaker A:It's one of those movies.
Speaker A:Like I watched it today and I was like, I want to watch it again now because like I just.
Speaker A:Yeah, it just makes me.
Speaker A:I love it.
Speaker A:And I'm surprised.
Speaker A:This was Josh Brolin's debut film.
Speaker A:Like with his dad being James Brolin.
Speaker A:Like I'm surprised he wasn't in something before he was an old ass teenager.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Actor.
Speaker B:He is.
Speaker B:I just.
Speaker B:What did I just watch with him?
Speaker A:I love Josh bro.
Speaker B:I can't even.
Speaker A:I love James Brolin.
Speaker A:His dad was hella good too.
Speaker B:They're.
Speaker B:They're great.
Speaker B:Oh, I was just watching American Gangster.
Speaker B:Oh, that's what he's.
Speaker B:That's not a movie.
Speaker B:He's a.
Speaker B:He's the star.
Speaker B:But even dude just steals scenes anyways.
Speaker B:But what a great actor.
Speaker A:What was the movie, Alec?
Speaker A:What was the name?
Speaker A:And maybe I'm just asking you because you live in Arizona, but what's the movie about?
Speaker A:The Prescott firefighters.
Speaker A:Oh, you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker C:I know what you're talking about.
Speaker A:Like flame jumpers or something like that.
Speaker A:I don't remember.
Speaker C:He was only the brave.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:One I served in Scottsdale, so I was a little drive away from Prescott.
Speaker A:I've been to Prescott many times.
Speaker A:I've seen that tree before the fires happened.
Speaker A:I saw him and it wild like that story.
Speaker A:So for me, like watching that movie is very harrowing because I'm very familiar with the area and it like I said had been there before that fire happened.
Speaker A:But he in that movie.
Speaker A:Oh my God, him and Miles Teller.
Speaker A:Dude so good in that movie.
Speaker A:If you haven't seen it, Matson, you should watch.
Speaker B:No, I haven't.
Speaker A:It'll gut your ass.
Speaker A:It'll rip you.
Speaker A:Just like.
Speaker A:It's so emotional and hard to watch.
Speaker A:And it's based on a chance.
Speaker A:Hard to watch.
Speaker A:Very difficult story.
Speaker A:Very sad story.
Speaker A:But very like, I don't know, inspiring story in a lot of ways as well and.
Speaker A:But like it's a tough one.
Speaker A:But Josh Brolin acts the out of that and it's.
Speaker A:Yeah, very good.
Speaker A:But I love.
Speaker A:He's one of my favorites.
Speaker B:I'll watch that in the next week.
Speaker B:The movie I'm going to be watching any day now, I've been wanting to watch.
Speaker B:I've never seen Heat and oh, that movie lately.
Speaker A:Love Heat.
Speaker A:I just recently watched that with Casey.
Speaker B:Yeah, you talked about it too.
Speaker B:And I was like, oh, man, I gotta watch that.
Speaker A:Be prepared to watch it in chunks.
Speaker A:It is a three hour movie.
Speaker B:Yeah, I know it's long, but it's really good.
Speaker A:It's got one of the greatest fight like action sequences in cinematic history, in my opinion.
Speaker B:But I'm excited, so.
Speaker A:Good.
Speaker A:Anyway, Josh Brolin that.
Speaker A:Add that to the list.
Speaker A:Alec and I were talking about.
Speaker A:And hey, here's.
Speaker A:If you're still listening to this episode of the podcast, go to Patreon and chime in for free, because you can.
Speaker A:But we were.
Speaker A:Alec and I were talking about when.
Speaker A:When you were out of town.
Speaker A:We should do like, we've done a lot of like themed movie months.
Speaker A:We should do like, we've only done one actor movie and it was tied to a sports theme with Kevin Costner.
Speaker A:But like, we were talking about we should just do like a Josh Brolin month.
Speaker A:And we just do movies that star Josh Brolin.
Speaker A:So I would prolin in a heartbeat.
Speaker A:He's got some weird ones like no country for Old Men.
Speaker A:Good God, what a great movie.
Speaker B:What a great movie that is.
Speaker A:And he was phenomenal in that.
Speaker A:Anyway, Goonies.
Speaker A:I was very happy that I got to pick this one.
Speaker A:Should we rate it?
Speaker B:Let's do it.
Speaker A:Okay, Easy.
Speaker A:Five for me.
Speaker A:No questions.
Speaker A:Like I said, this, this is up there as one of my favorite movies of all time.
Speaker A:And I.
Speaker A:I wore this VHS out.
Speaker A:Yes, I had it on VHS because that's what I had back then.
Speaker A:I wore this out.
Speaker A:My parents bought me three different versions of this on VHS because I watched it that much that I just wore it out.
Speaker A:I remember there was a piece when.
Speaker A:When Sloth and Chunk come tearing down the.
Speaker A:The sail and the knife and they're like, it.
Speaker A:It got fuzzy because the tape was so.
Speaker A:Because I'd rewind it.
Speaker A:Watch out part because it was so good.
Speaker A:Anyway, love this movie.
Speaker A:It's a five.
Speaker A:I'll watch it anytime with anyone and it's.
Speaker A:It'll make me feel just as happy and, and enjoyable as anytime that I've ever watched it.
Speaker A:I may enjoy it more as an adult than I did as a kid, if that's possible.
Speaker A:It's just so good.
Speaker A:So there it is.
Speaker A:Five for me.
Speaker A:Go watch Goonies because it's awesome.
Speaker A:Matson.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:This movie is an easy five as well.
Speaker B:Let's.
Speaker B:While it's not.
Speaker B:I don't care.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:The weight of nostalgia is.
Speaker B:Weight's the wrong word.
Speaker B:I wish I.
Speaker B:We have.
Speaker B:We all have our movies like Heavyweights for me, is that movie where.
Speaker B:This movie is better than Heavyweights for sure.
Speaker B:Just in terms of writing and what it represents.
Speaker B:But this movie just makes, like I said, transports you back to your childhood, puts you on an adventure that you wish he had.
Speaker B:Very quotable.
Speaker B:Stands up through the test of time.
Speaker B:Just like it says Goonies never die.
Speaker A:That's right, Alec.
Speaker C:Let's just make it fives across the board.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:This movie's.
Speaker C:It's not even up there as like kids summer movies.
Speaker C:Like, it's just up there as good movies.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And so I'll sit down and I'll watch Goonies anytime.
Speaker C:100 easy five.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Can I just say one more thing about it?
Speaker A:At the beginning, I love how we get introduced, like during that chase sequence.
Speaker A:Like we see every single character doing something that's related to them.
Speaker A:Like Chunk throwing pizza and Shake against the window to watch the chase Data pulling himself into the garbage can.
Speaker A:It's just great.
Speaker A:So get a grit.
Speaker A:And the silly music that goes along with it.
Speaker A:Love it.
Speaker A:So good.
Speaker A:Joey Pants is one of my favorite people to watch.
Speaker A:Anyway, there it is.
Speaker A:Goonies.
Speaker A:Alec, tell everybody where they can find us.
Speaker C:Happy to.
Speaker C:So thank you for tuning into week four of our Summer movies month.
Speaker C:And we've had a back to back of fives across the board, which is a rare occurrence in this podcast.
Speaker C:Ever since Matson came back, Patreon's the place to get involved with content.
Speaker C:I mentioned a couple times before, but like we said earlier, I think earlier this month I said it.
Speaker C:This voting means a lot to us to have our movies picked.
Speaker C:It is major bragging rights.
Speaker C:There is behind the scenes throwdowns making fun of retarded stupid movies that people put in here.
Speaker C:And so Patreon means a lot to us.
Speaker C:Go vote.
Speaker C:It's not gonna cost you anything.
Speaker C:But it is bragging rights for lice with us.
Speaker A:And I own June, baby.
Speaker C:And J.J.
Speaker C:owns June.
Speaker B:That's right.
Speaker C:For the first time.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker A:Shut up.
Speaker C:But Patreon's place to find us there.
Speaker C:Thank you to CB and Rich Charles.
Speaker C:You guys are amazing.
Speaker C:Thank you for selecting the movies that go in these topics and for selecting topics for us.
Speaker C:You guys are all that keeps JJ sane and in this podcast.
Speaker C:So appreciate you guys.
Speaker C:And with that I will kick it back to the colossus of clout, the Maharaja of mash.
Speaker C:A.
Speaker C:JJ that's right.
Speaker A:I'm owning.
Speaker A:I'm owning July, too, just so you know.
Speaker A:Ah, we'll see how it goes.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So there it is.
Speaker A:As always, we appreciate you tuning in.
Speaker A:We'll catch you on the next one.
Speaker C:Hasta la vista, baby.
Speaker A:Cinematic.
Speaker A:Oh.
