The Matrix (1999)
JJ, Mattson and Alec delve into the cultural and cinematic impact of 'The Matrix', released on March 31, 1999, which coincidentally marks the 18th birthday of JJ. The hosts engage in a vibrant discussion, reflecting on their first experiences with the film and how it shaped their understanding of cinema. They explore themes of reality versus illusion, drawing parallels to contemporary discussions on technology and artificial intelligence. The conversation also touches on the film's innovative storytelling techniques and visual effects, particularly the groundbreaking 'bullet time' style that has since become a hallmark of action cinema. The hosts analyze character arcs, especially that of Neo, and the philosophical implications of choosing between the red and blue pills, inviting listeners to ponder their own choices in the context of modern life.
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You just say this movie's boring.
Speaker A:Tay Tay thinks the Matrix is boring.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That's hurtful.
Speaker B:Someone's living in the Matrix.
Speaker A:I know.
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Speaker C: ,: Speaker C:On my 18th birthday.
Speaker C:Fellas, shut up.
Speaker C:It was written and directed by the Wakowskis.
Speaker C:I'm gonna leave it at that.
Speaker C:And it stars Keanu Reeves, Lawrence Fishburn, Carrie Anne Moss, Hugo Weaving, Gloria Foster, Joe Pantoliano, Marx Chong, Julian Arahanga.
Speaker C:There we go.
Speaker C:And Belinda McClory.
Speaker C:It was about a weird.
Speaker C:When a beautiful stranger leads computer hacker Neo to a forbidding underworld, he discovers the shocking truth.
Speaker C:Life, he knows, is the elaborate deception of an evil, evil cyber intelligence.
Speaker C:That's a terrible synopsis, but sure, whatever.
Speaker A:Yeah, that was not their best version.
Speaker C:Yeah, whoever wrote that one, kind of silly, but this was my movie.
Speaker C:My one and only pick this month.
Speaker C:I love this movie.
Speaker C:I saw this movie on my 18th birthday.
Speaker C:It was interesting because my buddy Kyle at the time, he's talked to us a couple times on Here Red.
Speaker C:He.
Speaker C:He talked me into going to see it because he.
Speaker C:I don't know, he got an early screening or something, I don't remember.
Speaker C:But he, like, convinced me to go see it because I was like, I don't know, dude.
Speaker C:Keanu Reeves, like, he was in, like, this interesting mode where he'd done some major movies, but he'd also done some really weird ones.
Speaker C:And so, like, I was like, I don't know, this just kind of seemed like a weird movie to me.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker C:But he convinced me, and I sat down, watched.
Speaker C:It went like.
Speaker C:At the time, I was like, that might be the greatest movie I've ever seen.
Speaker C:Like, just because it was so different and it introduced so much new technology that you just had never seen anything like that before.
Speaker C:And then.
Speaker C:Yeah, I mean, I'm sure we'll talk a lot more about it.
Speaker C:But, like, it intrigued me because it was.
Speaker C:It was so different.
Speaker C:And then, like, the idea, like, it kept me on the.
Speaker C:It was weird.
Speaker C:And I guess I'll start this.
Speaker C:It's not really a twist to me.
Speaker C:Like, Right.
Speaker C:Like, the whole, like, you're.
Speaker C:You're fed starts off keeping me going because it gives you this, like, weird intro, really.
Speaker C:Oh, how was she able to do that?
Speaker C:Kind of.
Speaker C:And then it goes to, like, this.
Speaker C:What feels like as normal as you can be with Neo waking up.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:And then, like, his computer target.
Speaker C:So it's just this constant barrage of, like, where's this going?
Speaker C:And then when it gets there, you're like, oh, that's a cool idea.
Speaker C:And then the real twist, if you will, if there is a twist, is that first moment where Joey Pants is sitting in the restaurant eating the steak.
Speaker C:But even that wasn't necessarily much of a twist.
Speaker C:But it was just such a good story that you're just like, I need to know more about this.
Speaker C:And then, like, the world building that they did.
Speaker C:And so this one really stuck with me.
Speaker C:I think I saw it in the theater like, three or four times.
Speaker C:But, yeah, it was.
Speaker C:It was amazing.
Speaker C:What did you guys think of it?
Speaker C:Hold up.
Speaker A:Red or blue pill?
Speaker C:Oh, see this?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:This is a question.
Speaker C:I think in the moment, I would definitely take, you know, the red pill or the blue pill.
Speaker C:Whatever the one it was.
Speaker C:I don't remember.
Speaker C:I would have wanted to not be in the Matrix anymore at the beginning.
Speaker A:Alec.
Speaker B:Oh, I'm taking the blue pill that I am staying in the Matrix.
Speaker B:I got a job as a software writer and I, you know, a little side hustle on the side.
Speaker B:Going anywhere?
Speaker A:Well, yeah, I mean, I think.
Speaker A:I'd like to think I'd take the.
Speaker A:I think it's the red pill that gets you out and, like, do that and be the hero.
Speaker A:I probably would end up taking the blue.
Speaker A:I don't know, man.
Speaker A:It's just.
Speaker A:Life's a lot better.
Speaker A:And sure, I'm in his simulation, but it's a pretty good one, I think, too.
Speaker C:Like.
Speaker C:Yeah, we're getting in.
Speaker C:I was gonna ask this question later.
Speaker C:We're getting into it.
Speaker C:I.
Speaker C:I think from Neo's perspective, I take the red pill and I stick with it.
Speaker C:Because he's like, they know that this group that he's.
Speaker C:That he's after specifically, Morpheus is after him and want him.
Speaker C:So the.
Speaker C:The agents aren't going to leave you alone at that point.
Speaker C:And then obviously in the.
Speaker C:In this movie, we didn't know where we were headed with some of this and the fact that he basically had to take the red pill for the whole thing to function.
Speaker C:But in this movie, I mean, I think you're.
Speaker C:He's screwed.
Speaker C:So he has to take it and get out because otherwise they're not going to let him stay in there with them chasing them like that.
Speaker C:On the flip side, though, if I'm any of the other people that they've pulled out at this point, like, I'm not the one that I'm Joey Pants in this movie, dude.
Speaker C:You.
Speaker C:I'm Cipher.
Speaker C:I'm going.
Speaker C:You guys are not.
Speaker C:I'm going back.
Speaker C:But, like, watching him eat that steak, like, I love that scene.
Speaker C:It's just like, I know the steak isn't real, but ignorance is bliss.
Speaker C:Yeah, I love that.
Speaker A:I think the criminals that know that they're.
Speaker A:They're the tweeners, they know that it's not real, but they take advantage of it.
Speaker A:Like, that seems like an Alec move especially.
Speaker A:And I could see myself doing that as well, where you're like, hey, you know it?
Speaker A:But you're.
Speaker A:You're in command of it and you can benefit more from it.
Speaker A:Pretty good life.
Speaker B:Well, I'm not bungling the operation where you turn in Morpheus.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like, dude, that's one thing you got to get right.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Well, why, Like, I always laugh at cyber.
Speaker C:Because he's like, he throws down the weapon.
Speaker C:I'm like, you don't put your weapon down.
Speaker B:Double tap.
Speaker C:Yeah, you fry them all till they look like dozers.
Speaker C:Like, sorry.
Speaker C:It's just.
Speaker C:You make sure they're not getting back up, and then it's a whole different animal.
Speaker A:But, yeah, that's one thing I love that they did in this movie is the contrast between the Matrix and, like, the real world and the clothes and the colors and the environment.
Speaker A:Like, you just felt a little depressed anytime you saw them outside the Matrix.
Speaker A:And I mean, clearly that was by design because it's the whole point of it and the juxtaposition.
Speaker A:And then in the Matrix, didn't the Matrix movies, didn't they have, like, a slight green hue?
Speaker C:Yep.
Speaker C:Everything.
Speaker C:You're in the Matrix, everything's kind of got a green.
Speaker A:And it was more pronounced in the second and third one because I remember it even more so than maybe even the first one.
Speaker A:But again, all of it by design.
Speaker A:And that's one thing I love about this movie, is they make you feel it and make you feel it immediately.
Speaker A:And you have that tug of war of like, oh, am I more like a Cipher?
Speaker A:Am I going to be, like, a Neo?
Speaker A:And you're like.
Speaker A:But then the more you watch, you're like, well, I can understand why someone would want to sabotage this, because why do they want to go back to this drab ship in pipes and they're trying to, like, fight off these machines that look like squids.
Speaker A:And it just all seems rather depressing when you could be back in and eating a steak that you know is fake.
Speaker A:But, hey, your fake taste buds make it taste fake good.
Speaker A:Like sweet.
Speaker A:Send me back.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:Well, and it's to their credit, like, getting Joey Joe Pantaleone to do Cipher was just genius because he has that likability, but he also, like, has that just villainous.
Speaker C:Like, you believe that he's doing this because he's sick and tired of being out.
Speaker C:It's not that he doesn't like these people and he wants to, like, hurt them, but, Yeah, I.
Speaker C:I get it.
Speaker C:Like, that sucks, dude.
Speaker C:I wouldn't want to be stuck in that.
Speaker A:He's the type of actor that when he came out of his mother's womb, like, I feel like he just had a sinister face and then, like, a happy one and, like, went sinister again.
Speaker A:He just yo.
Speaker A:Yoed.
Speaker C:What's weird is seeing the man with Hair, like, that's the one that anytime he's got hair in, like, some old movies, I'm like, joey pants with hair.
Speaker C:That's weird.
Speaker C:I would have sworn he came out just bald and never grew it, like, because I can't imagine, like, again, the.
Speaker C:The original Bad Boys movie when he had hair.
Speaker C:I'm like, that just doesn't.
Speaker C:It just doesn't look right.
Speaker A:Like, yeah, for me with this movie.
Speaker A:I remember when it came out, Alec, I was in my friend's basement, and I was 8, and it had come out in theaters, and I didn't see it immediately, but we had all talked about it.
Speaker A:I was, like, kind of young.
Speaker A:I don't remember when I first.
Speaker A:I think it was a little bit later, around then, or it might have been a few years later.
Speaker A:I'm fuzzy on when I actually saw it.
Speaker A:It definitely was on TV that I watched it the first time because I didn't have an ability to go see it in theaters at my young age or anyone that would take me.
Speaker A:So I don't exactly Remember when I saw, I just remember the first thing.
Speaker A:We were playing Ninja Turtles, a video game in my friend's basement.
Speaker A:We were talking about the movie the Matrix.
Speaker A:Like it was all over the place, had trickled down to an 8 year old and that's how, you know how big it was.
Speaker A:But then at some point I watched it and I mean, like you, Tyne had talked about, just a transcendent movie is amazing.
Speaker A:Like just so good.
Speaker A:Like everything.
Speaker A:I mean, I could go on and on even having just watched it again for I don't know how many times I watched this movie.
Speaker A:Not nearly to the extent either of you probably have because I don't rewatch movies as much.
Speaker A:But I love this movie.
Speaker A:Like I, I don't even.
Speaker A:There's probably a little nitpicky things to say, but just such an imaginative, different, thought provoking movie and it's just cool.
Speaker A:That's what I remember.
Speaker A:It's like smooth and cool.
Speaker C:When did you see this for the first time?
Speaker B:Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker B:I do know I was 5, almost 6 when this movie came outside.
Speaker B:Didn't see it then.
Speaker B:Ye was busy watching, I don't know, Teletubbies.
Speaker C:I was getting ready to graduate high school.
Speaker B:I think I actually saw this movie the first time with Javier.
Speaker B:I want to say and something I always forget when watching this is how much of a setup the first one is.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like it just as it starts feeling like it's going to ramp up, it's over.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so I like that.
Speaker B:I like the world building that goes into it.
Speaker B:It's something that we don't get a lot of just to begin with.
Speaker B:Certainly not anymore.
Speaker B:Right now you'd have three Matrix movies that are all the same copy paste.
Speaker B:Instead of having one film that stretches over three time periods that do the world building, character building and story all combined into one.
Speaker B:And so that's what keeps me going back to it is the, the novelty, I guess is the best way to put it of the fact that where they should like start their third act is where they end the movie.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I, I mean I, I don't know how you were able to stand it, JJ waiting a couple years until the second one came out or, you know, not even knowing if there would be a second one because by the time I got around to watching this, I mean they were almost four.
Speaker C:It's fair.
Speaker C:I.
Speaker C:Here's the weird thing about this movie for me, like I would have been perfectly okay and let me be clear, I would still be perfectly okay.
Speaker C:If they never made the sequels, if.
Speaker A:It was a one and done.
Speaker A:I knew you're gonna say it.
Speaker C:I think, and there's a couple reasons why that are weird and goofy, but I think the major reason why is because I think this movie, the way it ends, allows you to go, this is interesting.
Speaker C:And like, it's in.
Speaker C:And I think there would have been room for like, you know, maybe some books, comics, whatever, which they did, but I didn't need two and three for me to.
Speaker C:And look, I watched them and I enjoyed them to a certain degree, but I think this movie was so well contained and done.
Speaker C:And to your point, it was different.
Speaker C:Even the structure of the movie was like you said, you get a 10 minute sequence at the end, that's the third act and you're like, whoa, wait, what?
Speaker C:But I like the way that it ends, minus the flying away thing.
Speaker C:That part always.
Speaker C:I was like, what?
Speaker C:That's weird.
Speaker C:You had to turn him into Superman.
Speaker C:Like, I don't like that.
Speaker C:But that was my only beef with this entire movie.
Speaker C:The first time I watched it was like, ah, just have him hang up the phone and walk away.
Speaker C:Like, that would have been enough for me.
Speaker C:But like, that's so nitpicky.
Speaker C:But I was.
Speaker C:Yeah, I would have been perfectly fine if they'd never made additional movies of this.
Speaker C:In fact, I think one of its biggest problems is down the road when it gets to two and three, because this one was such a massive success, it boosted up the budget, which let him do a bunch of cgi, which at the time didn't look real great in a lot of cases.
Speaker C:Especially like in the fight scenes when they're digitizing Keanu Reeves.
Speaker C:I'm like, oh, let's switch back and.
Speaker A:Forth between, oh, the pole scene, which, yeah, is cool with the agents, but like also takes it to tracks, but is also super cool.
Speaker A:I, I have a war in my head about that.
Speaker C:Yeah, well, I mean, I forgive the awful visuals because it's such a cool moment that all of that is.
Speaker A:They were, they were pushing the boundaries, but it was.
Speaker A:This is a bit much, but it's.
Speaker C:But to me, like, that was the, it's the biggest detriment to an independent, not huge budget film like this when it then makes a ton of money over top of its budget.
Speaker C:So I think this thing made like almost $200 million on a budget of less than under a hundred million, for sure.
Speaker C:I think it might have been even under 50 million.
Speaker C:Like it was a.
Speaker C:I don't remember what it was, but it was lower.
Speaker C:So it made a ton of money.
Speaker C:And of course Warner Brothers at the time was like, well let's make more.
Speaker C:And the Wachowskis did and the, and they're.
Speaker C:They were very successful.
Speaker C:It was very interesting story overarching when you get into the second and third.
Speaker C:But I would have been perfectly happy if they never made them.
Speaker C:I thought this was movie was wonderfully self contained.
Speaker A:Well, it's easier to say that now because while, I mean, don't get me wrong, I watch 2 and 3 and I enjoy them.
Speaker A:Certainly not so much 4 but they're weird at the same time.
Speaker A:There's some.
Speaker A:We're not going to go into that today so much.
Speaker A:But they try to get really philosophical and do some of the things that it's not that it doesn't work, but it kind of doesn't work.
Speaker A:Kind of does work and it gets, it's just a lot.
Speaker A:They're trying to cram it a lot.
Speaker A:When at least this movie was much more simplistic about how you knew the One and his crew were going to try and take down the Matrix.
Speaker A:But then they throw in these other variables and it's, it's just, it just.
Speaker A:Yeah, it goes places that even now like when I've watched them I've gone to like threads or chat GPT and explain like all the intricacies of how this could work and weird.
Speaker A:And if you think about just this movie, the way it ends, you're like there's so much possibilities you could think of how it could be done and everything.
Speaker A:The reason two and three I still get by is because the fighting just gets better.
Speaker A:I mean those things just get way better, better better because this movie, for all intensive purposes, I think some of the.
Speaker A:If I was the nitpick, I was like I just want to see a little bit more like give me ramp up a little as Alec was saying.
Speaker A:But I'm okay with it because I know what they're building and how they're getting there.
Speaker A:Because there's parts of this movie that are a little slow.
Speaker A:But having seen this so much, I know what's coming and I, I love the rise of Neo and I'm okay with it every single time.
Speaker A:But do you just say this movie's boring?
Speaker A:Tay Taz thinks the Matrix is boring.
Speaker A:That's, that's hurtful.
Speaker B:Someone's living in the Matrix.
Speaker A:I know, but I also forgot how much Neo speaks in this or Neo and why am I forgetting his name?
Speaker A:Keanu Reeves speaks in this movie.
Speaker A:He actually Does a pretty good job.
Speaker A:But this movie, in this franchise without Hugo Weaving is nothing to me.
Speaker A:Like, he is incredible.
Speaker C:Oh yeah.
Speaker A:Mr.
Speaker A:Anderson.
Speaker A:And like his dialogue and his model, some of those things.
Speaker A:Like, that's my.
Speaker A:Honestly, he's my favorite character.
Speaker A:I love his Persona and what he's about.
Speaker A:And the more you learn about his motivations and that part, I do think they do well in the later movies.
Speaker A:But I love his character.
Speaker A:And to me, this movie is nothing without him because everyone, every actor is great in this.
Speaker A:But Hugo Weaving, he's a scene stealer.
Speaker C:For me, for sure.
Speaker C:Hugo, even without this movie, we don't have him as Elrond.
Speaker C:I don't think so that helped that too.
Speaker C:But yeah, he absolutely like his speech to.
Speaker C:To Morpheus while he's trying to break him.
Speaker C:Like, it's the smell.
Speaker C:Like, I just like that whole monologue to me is.
Speaker C:Might be.
Speaker C:I mean, it's definitely top two or three moments in the whole movie.
Speaker C:Like, I just love that you're a disease.
Speaker C:Like, and just the way he delivers it in that just flat, almost monotone and yet very pissed off.
Speaker C:And, like, you can feel the angst pouring off of this program, right?
Speaker C:Like, you're just like, this is wild.
Speaker C:So, yeah, he absolutely makes this movie.
Speaker C:And then the.
Speaker C:I think, to me, though, like, the way that they build the characters in general in such a short amount of time, this isn't a long movie.
Speaker C:And so, like, you get on the Nebuchadnezzar and you only get these characters, like, the other parts of the team for a few moments.
Speaker C:But, like, I love Apoc and Switch and Mouse.
Speaker C:And like, I can't help but go, I want to know more about Dozer and.
Speaker C:And you know what I mean?
Speaker C:Like, tell me about Tank and how these things work.
Speaker C:And like, how did.
Speaker C:Why do we have that?
Speaker C:So it's like.
Speaker C:And I like them.
Speaker C:I'm actually pissed when they start to die.
Speaker C:I'm like, no, that.
Speaker C:That.
Speaker C:What a up way to go too.
Speaker C:Like, this is so that too the storytelling, the introduction and use of the characters and the really smart and well done.
Speaker C:Because we get emotionally attached.
Speaker C:At least I do.
Speaker C:You get to a certain level of emotional attachment to these characters and you only know them for a few minutes and it's not like they do anything significant.
Speaker C:I mean, Mouse's biggest claim to fame is the lady in red, right?
Speaker C:Like the woman in the red dress.
Speaker C:But that little moment where he's like.
Speaker C:And you get.
Speaker C:I think it's a Pocker is like the Digital pimp part at work.
Speaker C:Like, it just.
Speaker C:Like it's so relatable even in, you know, they're far in the future in this terrible circumstance.
Speaker C:But yeah, you can't help but relate to them.
Speaker C:So it's just genius writing for how that went for this movie too.
Speaker C:Like just clutch.
Speaker C:But I like all the characters.
Speaker C:It's wild.
Speaker C:But I think Morpheus too.
Speaker C:Lawrence Fishburne, he's another one that.
Speaker C:Oh yeah, about him.
Speaker C:It's funny because Neo is the main character, but Neo could have been anybody.
Speaker C:I think anybody could have played Neo.
Speaker C:Now, don't get me wrong, I'm glad it was Keanu Reeves.
Speaker C:He played it well.
Speaker C:But anybody could have played him and it would have worked.
Speaker C:Morpheus and Smith, on the other hand, not so much.
Speaker A:Well, didn't this movie put Lawrence Fishborne on the map too?
Speaker A:Or is he already on the map before this?
Speaker C:He was already a kind of.
Speaker A:Well, I mean, it took him to.
Speaker C:A.
Speaker C:I mean it pushed him way over the edge.
Speaker C:But he was.
Speaker C:He's around Lawrence Fishburne.
Speaker C:He never broke any movies like this one.
Speaker A:The only reason that you wanted to be Keanu Reeves after the fact is because his dedication to physical acting.
Speaker A:He was able to take this movie to new heights in that regard where someone else, like they could have cast that could have been a better dialogue actor may not have put in as much time and effort as he.
Speaker A:Because that's the part of this movie that I mean, the fight scenes, just when he's in slow mo.
Speaker A:When he figures out he's the one and doing all this thing.
Speaker A:Say what you want about Keanu Reeves, but dude exudes confidence with physical acting.
Speaker A:Like almost no one I've ever seen.
Speaker C:Yeah, well, and I like him too, because where he struggles with actual dialogue a lot of times because like he has a hard time delivering it.
Speaker C:Sometimes it's just how his voice is.
Speaker C:But at the same time, like non dialogue scenes.
Speaker C:The guy is a genius at across the board.
Speaker C:Not just in this one, but it comes through in this one.
Speaker C:Because while he talks a lot more than he usually does in a lot of movies, like he doesn't talk a ton.
Speaker C:Like he has very little.
Speaker C:Everyone has very minimal dialogue in this movie except for Hugo Weaving.
Speaker C:For the most, he probably talks the most besides maybe Laurence Fishburne.
Speaker C:But it works.
Speaker C:Like in the moments where all he said, like.
Speaker C:And even his stupid.
Speaker C:Like.
Speaker C:Like when Morpheus jumps the first time across the building, he's like, whoa.
Speaker C:Like that.
Speaker C:Even.
Speaker C:Like normally I'm like, there's Keanu Reeves.
Speaker C:But it worked in that moment, I was like, okay.
Speaker C:I think all of us would be like, whoa.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker C:Which I also love that moment too.
Speaker C:That's another one that gets you all excited for the character building is they're all standing around watching Neo.
Speaker C:Like, I love that part where Mouse comes running.
Speaker C:He's like, Morpheus is fighting Neo.
Speaker C:And they all.
Speaker C:It's like the super bowl, dude.
Speaker C:They all come running out and they're watching it.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:Yeah, like, that's just.
Speaker C:They're standing there and they're chewing on their fingernails, and when he's getting ready to jump, nobody makes the first time, but what if he does?
Speaker C:He won't.
Speaker C:And then he falls.
Speaker C:That shit's funny.
Speaker C:I love, like, that.
Speaker C:Just scenes like that just make me smile.
Speaker C:I'd watch in this movie.
Speaker A:The other things that stand out to me in this movie are the one.
Speaker A:The music.
Speaker A:They.
Speaker A:They kind of blend two different things.
Speaker A:Like that.
Speaker A:Kind of like that rock thing that.
Speaker A:Didn't we know the.
Speaker A:The Matrix theme song.
Speaker A:But then also, like, the.
Speaker A:The heavy beating of, like, I don't know what they are.
Speaker A:It's not symbols or chimes or something, but they, like, stark when they.
Speaker A:When the fighting is happening in, like, the brass that plays always.
Speaker A:You could play those little runs, and I'd be like, oh, I know what movie that's from.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That's definitely a Matrix sound.
Speaker A:And I think they use both of those.
Speaker A:Their advantage to one, make this movie, like I said earlier, smooth and cool.
Speaker A:Because this movie's got swag to it.
Speaker A:Like, absolute swag.
Speaker A:When they're going into the bank and trying to.
Speaker A:To free Morpheus, they just look cool.
Speaker A:And they bring in, like, the BDSM community to an extent, like, and.
Speaker A:And popularize that type of culture and make it cool.
Speaker A:And I'm sure it had an effect after the fact from this movie.
Speaker A:The music, the.
Speaker A:The sound, and then obviously just the.
Speaker A:The fighting.
Speaker A:Like, I mean, think about when you're a kid, like, later on, everybody was doing the Matrix.
Speaker A:Like, the whole.
Speaker A:Can you stand there and do the limbo?
Speaker A:Put your arms back.
Speaker A:Like, it definitely had a lot of pop culture implications even to this day.
Speaker A:Like, and that's.
Speaker A:Those are, to me, always markings of a movie that transcended what it originally even thought it could be.
Speaker A:And that's definitely this movie.
Speaker C:Agreed.
Speaker C:I.
Speaker C:I'm curious.
Speaker C:Like, we know you'd stay in the Matrix.
Speaker C:I get that.
Speaker A:Like, do you like this movie, Alec?
Speaker A:I feel like you're just kind of like it's fine.
Speaker B:I, I'm not a big fan of documentary but this is one of the better ones that's out there.
Speaker B:I, I enjoy it.
Speaker B:I mean I, I don't have like the, like I'm pretty sure the first time I saw it I was like 16 or 17, so like I don't have the nostalgic emotional tie ins to it.
Speaker B:I was like, oh, that's a cool movie.
Speaker B:And then as I watched more man, I was like, oh, this is a really great documentary.
Speaker B:I got swindled into watching a documentary.
Speaker B:But yeah, so I mean I like it but like, oh, she loves this movie but she also shot when it first came out type of a thing and so she has that emotional attachment to it that I just don't have.
Speaker B:And so I'm like, yeah, it's great but I don't have that, you know, real kind of tie into other movies that or tie in that I get with other films.
Speaker B:So I'm like, yeah, it's good, I love it, it's great.
Speaker B:But I don't get.
Speaker B:I like I never tried to bendwards backwards limbo and dodge the dodgeballs that came flying through.
Speaker B:I made fun of that kid.
Speaker B:But I think I've never tried it.
Speaker A:This is always a movie.
Speaker A:I'm movies for me that when I do rewatch them I think I go some somewhat long in between so I can like try to forget like little things that I've.
Speaker A:I know I would remember.
Speaker A:This is that movie like man, the Matrix if it's on tv, which is like never happens much anymore unless I'm trying to find something in between like commercials on a football game which still does happen.
Speaker A:If this movie's on, it probably takes me away from the football game.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:And that's power because I love football.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:It's an interesting point of view, Alec.
Speaker C:I never really thought about like when this came out for me.
Speaker C:This revolutionized movies in a lot of ways.
Speaker C:Like the whole bullet time thing, like the amount of movies that use bullet time, quote unquote, bullet time after this movie came out was outrageous a lot because it and it and it was different.
Speaker C:Like I remember, I vividly remember sitting in the theater with my buddy Kyle and when Trinity at the beginning, like that very first and the way they set it up.
Speaker C:I don't know if you've ever seen the behind the scenes stuff like when she jumps up in the air and they've got her on the ropes and she's got her legs all coiled and then it Freezes in circles her.
Speaker C:Like they had this big like U of cameras that it would run along and then it was really interesting tech.
Speaker C:Nobody didn't ever done anything like that before.
Speaker C:So when it happened in the movie, like, I remember, like, you guys ever see that Joe Rogan clip where he's what he's bought side ringside of like the fights and he, he's like, I did that.
Speaker C:I smack Kyle.
Speaker C:What the just happened?
Speaker C:Like, and then she's running on the walls and like this is one of the first ones that revolutionized like string work too.
Speaker C:Like, you know what I mean?
Speaker C:Like, this movie made a lot of huge differences in action sequences that we'd never seen before.
Speaker C:And they still use this today, right?
Speaker C:So it's for me, like, this movie is a game changer because when it came out, there had been nothing like this even remotely like this.
Speaker C:I mean, outside of like, you know, Dune touched on certain things to beat the 80s version of Dune, had tried to match some technology, things like that.
Speaker C:But like, nobody was as successful at it as the Matrix because the timing all fell in place for him.
Speaker C:So it was just really cool.
Speaker C:So it's interesting to hear that point of view.
Speaker C:I never really considered.
Speaker C:I was always like, man, everybody's got to think the Matrix is just like this wild ass revolutionary movie, right?
Speaker C:Like evolutionary movie.
Speaker C:But like, and if you see it 20 years after it comes out the first time or 15 years, you're like, ah, this shit's.
Speaker C:It's actually kind of janky compared to what they do in some places now.
Speaker C:But like.
Speaker C:And I don't know, I think the other thing that impresses me about this one version, like the first Matrix movie is it holds up.
Speaker C:Like, I don't have any complaints, especially this one, about the visuals in the movie.
Speaker C:Get into the second and third one, there's complaints.
Speaker C:But this one, I don't have any because it wasn't like they digitized a human being in it, right?
Speaker C:Like, it was just.
Speaker C:They just slowed everything down and did this interesting camera trick to make everything look interesting.
Speaker C:So I loved it.
Speaker C:And it has one of the greatest action sequences ever in the bank.
Speaker A:Oh, the bank scene is wild.
Speaker C:It's crazy.
Speaker C:And I will say when that moment when they drop the bomb in the elevator and that door goes flying through the whole thing.
Speaker C:So cool.
Speaker C:Right in front of the big fireball that comes out of it.
Speaker C:I do often wonder is like, wouldn't that whole building have just collapsed?
Speaker C:But sure, whatever.
Speaker C:It's not, I'm not gonna argue about it.
Speaker C:It looks great, but I love that scene, like, when they're freaking doing flips and.
Speaker C:And grabbing guns and Casey was laughing.
Speaker C:She watched it, and it's probably been years, decades maybe, since she watched the movie.
Speaker C:And we're watching it and it's.
Speaker C:They're shooting.
Speaker C:She's like, I feel like they're wasting ammo.
Speaker C:Like, it's like they probably are.
Speaker C:She goes, I feel like he threw that gun down way too early, but whatever.
Speaker C:There's probably still bullets in there.
Speaker A:We need bullet counter.
Speaker A:Javier.
Speaker C:Yeah, no, no, but I was like, two.
Speaker C:When he opens that jacket, I was like, man, had to been hard to walk with all that hardware in there.
Speaker A:Lots of guns.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, that whole thing.
Speaker A:But that's like.
Speaker A:That's like the swagger part of it.
Speaker A:Like, they just.
Speaker A:They hit that so well.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:One, like, as a video gamer, like, that part.
Speaker C:The whole virtual reality kind of shit.
Speaker C:Like, the other piece that as a kid was like was like, okay, you plug a needle in the back of your head, which was really long, by the way.
Speaker C:Like, every time I watch this, I'm like, how they first show that.
Speaker C:I'm like, that would come out.
Speaker A:It's going to your eyeball.
Speaker A:I'm like, it's right there to your temporal lobe, like, right before.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And I mean, in theory, you would think it would have to at least connect to your brain, right, to be able to inject the information.
Speaker C:But that was something I was like, I want to plug in and learn kung fu.
Speaker C:Like, that's one of the great lines too, is it comes out, I know kung fu.
Speaker C:Like, great.
Speaker C:I want to learn how to fly a freaking helicopter in two seconds.
Speaker C:That shit's awesome.
Speaker C:I love that part of that movie.
Speaker C:He's like, yeah, he's been going at it 12 hours straight.
Speaker C:Or some.
Speaker C:Like, he's a machine.
Speaker C:It's just such a simplistic storytelling movie.
Speaker C:But there's so much complexity in it, too.
Speaker C:And so I just really love the story and how they play it out.
Speaker C:And so many just memorable moments.
Speaker C:Like.
Speaker C:And then there's some Keanu Reeves moments, too.
Speaker C:Like the ones that when he's crawling out the window, he's like, I'm gonna die.
Speaker C:Like, I was like, oh, God, that's such a terrible delivery of that line with his face, the way it sc.
Speaker C:I'm like, oh, that's a Keanu Rose Grease moment.
Speaker C:Then what was the other one?
Speaker C:That really.
Speaker C:Oh, like, when he's at the door with the girl and she turns her shoulder and the white rabbits, the tattoos there.
Speaker C:And he's like, yeah, I'll go.
Speaker C:I'm like, oh God, there he is.
Speaker C:But for the most part, like I can't even complain about that.
Speaker C:And I love Keanu Reeves.
Speaker C:I just have to say that sometimes his delivery of lines, it's like what.
Speaker A:It's easily glossed over and honestly I don't even think I think about it.
Speaker C:Yeah, it's very easily forgiven in this movie because the rest of it is so just godamn good that I.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Hugo Weaving, best part.
Speaker A:He's yeah.
Speaker A:Incredible.
Speaker A:And I never thought someone could smile and look so sinister but not like scary but like confidently terrifying or something.
Speaker A:I don't know if they.
Speaker A:And and the other thing that this movie did, I'll never forget.
Speaker A:I remember Laurence Fishbourne's.
Speaker A:His sunglasses, the rimless sun.
Speaker A:Like that was another iconic thing that is like just never.
Speaker A:I'd never seen anything like that before and I was like, that would.
Speaker A:It's such like a Matrix thing.
Speaker A:Like it.
Speaker A:I never thought you could even do that.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it's not anything like groundbreaking.
Speaker A:We really think about it.
Speaker A:But just another little thing that just added to like the aura of the movie.
Speaker C:Yeah, that was dope.
Speaker C:I loved it.
Speaker C:I, I love.
Speaker C:And the fight scenes are cool too.
Speaker C:Like I think one of my favorites is like the very short lived fight between Morpheus and Smith like in that bathroom thing.
Speaker C:And just like the way he's jumping up and avoiding and like the just fast paced punches and blocks and like really cool the, the choreography.
Speaker A:Well, I liked how they shoot the choreography but when they showed how fast the agents were that they made a couple.
Speaker A:Like the one that always comes to mind for me was with Neo when you were like, oh, he's gonna, he's gonna get worked when he's getting punched in the subway.
Speaker A:And they show the actual speed of how these agents are hitting because sometimes they're like wait, are they really like, they're just, they're just fighting.
Speaker A:It's the same thing.
Speaker A:Are they really better?
Speaker A:And then you're like, oh, they're way faster.
Speaker A:And then you kind of understand that and they do a really good job of putting that fear in, in you.
Speaker A:So it's just such a cool premise.
Speaker A:I could keep going on and on and on.
Speaker A:Alex probably like, I'm good, but I.
Speaker B:Love listening to the two you talk about this movie.
Speaker B:It's great.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Because Alex, like I don't, I don't feel the same way, but it's fun.
Speaker C:Well, I Think too.
Speaker C:Like, one of the things that gets me with this movie now that since we just.
Speaker C:It was mentioned a little bit too, was like, it doesn't end like it ends the way you think it's going to end, but it takes as fast as the ending is, it takes a while to get there because you're like.
Speaker C:He turns around the subway and you're like, oh, yeah, he's gonna beat the out of Smith.
Speaker C:No, he gets his ass kicked.
Speaker C:And the only reason he gets out of is because Smith's a cocky prick and wants to kill him using a train.
Speaker C:It's the only reason he gets out of it.
Speaker C:And yes, he fights him and he's good and he may.
Speaker C:But you can tell at the end when Smith grabs him, throws him against the wall and then does like the super fast punches.
Speaker C:He was with him the whole time.
Speaker C:Like, he could have defeated him anytime he wanted to, but he was like, I'm gonna beat the.
Speaker C:Take the time because he's a sinister prick.
Speaker C:I'm gonna beat the out of him.
Speaker C:Then I'm gonna kill him in the most obscure way by holding him in a train because it doesn't matter to me, but it'll kill him.
Speaker C:And I'm like, oh, that's funny.
Speaker C:And it wasn't until the very, very end that Neo figures out to action he has to die to do it in order to, you know, the whole resurrection reborn, however you want to go down that savior pathway, but, like, that's what triggers it.
Speaker C:And so I love that she whispered.
Speaker A:In my ear, JJ and then I could do it all things.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I think if it was.
Speaker C:If I wasn't so forgiving, that movie would knock that.
Speaker C:That part of like her telling him.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:What the oracle says is like, she did that man.
Speaker C:And the man that I love would be the one.
Speaker C:I'm like, oh, that whole sequence was pretty roug.
Speaker C:I think about it objectively, but subjectively, I don't give a.
Speaker C:All right, should we rate it?
Speaker A:Let's do it.
Speaker A:You're up, Jay.
Speaker C:I'm up.
Speaker C:I get to go first.
Speaker C:It doesn't happen very often these days.
Speaker A:You pick booty cheeks movies, but yeah, better movies.
Speaker C:You.
Speaker C:I pick great movies.
Speaker C:You.
Speaker C:Charles just likes to pick your guys's obscure, shitty one that was picked to torture our asses.
Speaker C:This.
Speaker A:And that.
Speaker C:It did everybody but only you.
Speaker C:Anyway, I'm gonna give it a five.
Speaker C:I think it is one of those movies that when you look back on the history of Hollywood, like it was a game changer.
Speaker C:It shifted the dynamic of Hollywood and moviemaking because of what it did.
Speaker C:The simplicity and yet complexity at the same time of the story.
Speaker C:And, like, it takes a lot to get your shit in a pile and ducks in a row to tell a story that is going to have that much world building and, you know, questions of, like, machines taking over the world and using us as batteries.
Speaker C:And, like, it's.
Speaker C:It's wild to build that kind of thing and yet to tell it in a simplistic form where, much to my chagrin, there's a lot of exposition.
Speaker C:But they do it in a way that is fun to watch, where they're walking down a busy city street looking like New York.
Speaker C:Morpheus is navigating it perfectly, and Neo's getting his ass beat by people bumping into him.
Speaker C:And, like, it's just the subtleties and the.
Speaker C:The little ways that they tell a story in this.
Speaker C:And such a simple.
Speaker C:With underlying complexity is.
Speaker C:Is just genius to me.
Speaker C:And the acting is great.
Speaker C:The story's fun, it's interesting, it's relatable.
Speaker C:Characters are great.
Speaker C:I'm giving it a five.
Speaker C:I will watch this movie anytime, anywhere.
Speaker C:It's one of my favorite movies of all time.
Speaker C:Not because it's one of the best ever, but because of what it was and the fact that it was very different.
Speaker C:And it's a very cool story.
Speaker C:Still to this day, nobody's done it quite as well.
Speaker C:And there was a lot of movies at the time that tried to do something.
Speaker C:There's one called Existence with, like, Jude Law, and it.
Speaker C:It's awful.
Speaker C:And so at the time, at this time frame, there was some movies coming out trying to tell this, like, are we in a simulation or type deal?
Speaker C:But this one did it and did it well, so love it.
Speaker C:Five.
Speaker C:Great movie.
Speaker B:All right, Alec, I'm gonna give it four and a half.
Speaker B:I think you have some.
Speaker B:Some pretty big storytelling holes in the movie or I don't know if it's storytelling holes, plot hole, something.
Speaker B:There's.
Speaker B:There's big gaps in there, but they do a very good job of covering them up.
Speaker B:So you do not care.
Speaker B:Yeah, like, that's.
Speaker B:That's brilliance at its finest.
Speaker B:Because they.
Speaker B:They wrote the story, you have those gaps, and then they just almost feel like they wrote another plot point in the story that you're like, oh, okay, yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker B:100.
Speaker B:Get it.
Speaker B:We're good now.
Speaker B:And that kind of brilliance is very few and far between.
Speaker B:So I'm gonna give four and a half.
Speaker C:Nice.
Speaker C:It's a good point.
Speaker A:All right, look, I've just all over this movie.
Speaker A:We already know it's a five.
Speaker A:I mean, Jay just kind of said it all.
Speaker A:But the last thing I wanted to say, and we've talked about a little bit with the pills, is the subculture that this movie opened up as well about are we all living in a simulation?
Speaker A:Like that's something that gets talked about even more now than it did then.
Speaker A:Just another thing that this movie brought to light.
Speaker A:So I think that's what impresses me the most.
Speaker A:The further away we get from 99 when this movie came out, the more relevant this movie feels to an extent.
Speaker A:Because now we're talking about AI and, and how it's going to continue to run our lives even more and the, the rise of humanoid machines and I mean Matrix is getting more relevant than.
Speaker A:Less relevant to an extent which I think is super cool.
Speaker A:And just the foresight that this movie had.
Speaker A:And then like I said to me, this movie, it just has the, it appeal, it's sexy, it's an interesting concept and the action's cool.
Speaker A:Just an awesome, awesome movie.
Speaker A:This movie's so good, I could go downstairs right now and start watching it and I would be very happy I.
Speaker C:Considering it.
Speaker A:I am also considering, I can tell you, for me to say that as you guys know, I.
Speaker A:There are a short list of movies on one, if not maybe, maybe a second hand that I could go do that right now and do it.
Speaker A:And I'm not like jj, Alec, who's watching tons of stuff.
Speaker A:I don't do that.
Speaker A:Like, it's just not my thing gladly do with this movie.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:Very happy to do it.
Speaker A:Incredible movie, happily reviewed.
Speaker A:I can't believe it's taken us so long to review this movie.
Speaker C:Well, we did the fourth one.
Speaker C:Were you on that one, Alec, or was that before you joined us?
Speaker B:I think I was on that one.
Speaker C:With the, the newest one with.
Speaker A:Yeah, that one was to an extent, JJ's point of like, if this movie had just ended when it did, would we be happy?
Speaker A:I get, I could say yes.
Speaker A:But man, the fighting is so good.
Speaker A:And some of the others that I.
Speaker C:Well, I was just sitting here thinking about that actually and I was like, I, I do, I stand by that.
Speaker C:Like, I'm fine.
Speaker C:I would have been fine if we never got any other Matrix movies.
Speaker C:However, how good one of the.
Speaker C:For me, the final saying of how good this movie is to me is it makes me want to watch.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:The inferior sequels.
Speaker A:Yeah, it does too.
Speaker C:Just to continue living in that world and you know, it's a funn.
Speaker A:You're on like a.
Speaker A:It's like a waterfall.
Speaker A:You're like that one, two, like.
Speaker A:And I know they become more of a progressive train wreck, but I'm still so invested that I still.
Speaker A:I mean, even the others that we reviewed them, they're not as great or even close, but I'll still watch them.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And there's still some amazing parts to them.
Speaker C:Like, I enjoy them.
Speaker C:There's just parts where I'm like, you didn't think that through.
Speaker C:So it was like.
Speaker C:But I love some of the complexity.
Speaker C:Like, one of my.
Speaker C:Just not to jump out of this movie.
Speaker C:But one of my favorite parts in the second movie is when they meet with.
Speaker C:When he meets with the architect.
Speaker C:And, like, the fact that I had to watch the architect scene.
Speaker C:I went back to the theater and watched that, the second one, at least two or three times just to see that.
Speaker C:Because at the time, I couldn't just stream it.
Speaker C:A month later, I knew I was gonna have to wait a year or two before I could rent it or buy it.
Speaker C:I wanted to watch that scene because I knew there was some serious exposition in there that I needed to understand the world.
Speaker C:Then when I finally got it, I'm like, that's genius.
Speaker C:We're talking about.
Speaker C:They.
Speaker C:There's.
Speaker C:These machines are so smart.
Speaker C:They had.
Speaker C:They built in a formula that was incomplete.
Speaker C:And so there's ratio.
Speaker C:There's like integers left.
Speaker C:And so that's what he is.
Speaker C:Is like this.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Conflagration of most of like, not imperfect calculations.
Speaker C:And so it's like, holy.
Speaker C:So there's parts of these movies that.
Speaker C:Even though there's parts that are terrible, there's genius in there.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:They just lost a little bit of the way to help that translate to a more basic audience.
Speaker C:And I think they got out of their own.
Speaker C:They got in their own way because they got so much money, they could introduce.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:New technology that just didn't help the visuals at all.
Speaker C:But I don't know how you do it without Alec.
Speaker A:Have you seen the others?
Speaker B:Only a couple times.
Speaker B:Like, maybe twice.
Speaker A:But you've seen.
Speaker A:Okay, but you've seen them, though.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Anyway, there it is.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:This.
Speaker C:Very high scores.
Speaker C:Great movie.
Speaker A:Of all the movies we've reviewed, because we've done like, the Patriot and the Dark, like, this is on.
Speaker A:This is on my short list.
Speaker A:This might make my.
Speaker A:If I.
Speaker A:If I had to rethink my top three, like, I think it might be in it.
Speaker C:Yeah, it's top Five.
Speaker C:Top five.
Speaker A:Easy, easy.
Speaker A:Top five.
Speaker A:Yeah, without a doubt.
Speaker C:Yeah, it's, it's, it's great.
Speaker A:It's a great top hundred.
Speaker A:Top hundred.
Speaker C:I love watching Alex face.
Speaker C:He's like, you.
Speaker C:You're crazy.
Speaker C:Top five.
Speaker C:Hey, man, nostalgia's a thing.
Speaker C:Boy, I tell you what it is.
Speaker C:Being having my mind blown at 18.
Speaker C:Stuck around for a lot of years now.
Speaker A:Whatever.
Speaker A:Have we decided what we're doing next month for our listeners?
Speaker C:We're doing the arbitration month.
Speaker A:Are we bringing it?
Speaker A:Oh, I've been requesting this for.
Speaker A:For many a month.
Speaker A:We're going OG status arbitrations.
Speaker A:Tell her.
Speaker A:Tell our listeners what that is, because many of them probably don't even know.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:If you haven't listened to us before, you can go back and listen.
Speaker C:We used to do arbitration episodes where we do twin movies or similar movies.
Speaker C:It wasn't always twin movies because there's some pretty, pretty strict guidelines for them to be called twin movies, but similar movies of a vein.
Speaker C:Like we've done 007 and Mission Impossible together.
Speaker A:This absolutely predated Alec, right?
Speaker C:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:Easily.
Speaker C:I don't think he's ever done an arbitration.
Speaker B:I haven't.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:My arbitration cherry.
Speaker C:In fact, the first arbitration we ever did, Matson and I were by ourselves.
Speaker A:That we were.
Speaker C:Yeah, that was.
Speaker A:We did Knives out in the Murder on the Ordinance.
Speaker C:That was the first five that was ever given too.
Speaker C:I gave a five to Knives Out.
Speaker A:Those were good movies.
Speaker C:So, yeah, we're gonna do that.
Speaker C:I gotta get those posted today.
Speaker A:I'm very excited for our.
Speaker A:All of our listeners.
Speaker A:It's a little bit more work for us, but I also think it's.
Speaker A:It's fun if we can get that back in rotation because it.
Speaker A:This group is nothing but opinionated.
Speaker A:Should be a good time.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker C:Looking forward to it.
Speaker C:Yeah, it should be fun.
Speaker C:And yeah, I'll have those posted.
Speaker C:So in.
Speaker C:In going along with what Alex about to tell you about here in a second.
Speaker C:Go check us out on Patreon.
Speaker C:And you can vote on those arbitrations.
Speaker A:Yes, you can.
Speaker C:So, yeah, go.
Speaker C:Go check it out.
Speaker A:Our people.
Speaker A:Should I say my people?
Speaker C:That's right.
Speaker C:And then they.
Speaker C:They give back to us, like in the form of Carl sending me a leg lamp.
Speaker C:So we appreciate our patrons around this joint.
Speaker C:We do some shitty movies for them and they get to vote.
Speaker C:So come join us.
Speaker C:Sure.
Speaker C:Now that I've stolen at least a quarter of your thunder, tell everybody where they can find us.
Speaker B:This is great.
Speaker B:I'm just deleting everything that you know I spent 30 seconds right now.
Speaker B:Never gonna get that 30 seconds back.
Speaker B:So anyways, yeah, so thank you for tuning in to the Matrix.
Speaker B:This wraps up our month of original screenplays, so appreciate you guys tuning in and watching through that question for the comments is I want to know red pill or blue pill?
Speaker B:I think most of us, circumstances notwithstanding, probably pick blue pill and go right back into the Matrix.
Speaker B:But want to see if there's any you red pill folks out there and then also let us know what you thought of the Matrix.
Speaker B:Are you a big fiverr like Matson and JJ or could you do a little bit less?
Speaker B:We'll see a shout out to our patrons, Richard and CB for picking this movie, putting it on the list, and for helping us like topics like JJ was talking about.
Speaker B:That's the place to go, guys.
Speaker B:Get involved.
Speaker B:Also see all the behind the scenes content and extra episodes.
Speaker B:So if you're finding a little lackluster, what's our verge in your life, go ahead and tune in there.
Speaker B:You can get hours, hours upon hours of content right there on the Patreon at what's our verdict?
Speaker B:So with that, I will kick it back to our fearless leader, the King of Crash, the Titan of terror, a jj.
Speaker C:I don't know about fearless.
Speaker C:If you guys follow me, that's your own problem.
Speaker C:But with all that, we appreciate you tuning in and we'll catch you on the next one.
