Tommy Boy (1995)
The podcast takes a deep dive into the timeless comedy 'Tommy Boy', exploring its cultural significance and the unforgettable performances of Chris Farley and David Spade. The hosts passionately discuss the film's evolution from a box office underperformer to a cult classic, largely due to Farley’s magnetic screen presence and his unique brand of humor. They dissect the film’s most iconic scenes and quotes, illustrating how these moments have become ingrained in popular culture. The discussion also highlights the film's themes of friendship, family, and the pursuit of success, delivered through a humorous lens that resonates with audiences of all ages.
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One of my favorite quotes that I had to like, look up to remember after the fact when he says, I'm going to read it because I can't remember it all the time.
Speaker A:I can get a good look at a T bone by sticking my head up a bull's ass, but I'd rather take a butcher's word for it.
Speaker B:I don't think that was.
Speaker B:I think it was.
Speaker B:I can get a good look at a butcher by looking up his ass.
Speaker A:So yeah, yeah, I know I butchered it.
Speaker A:But like it's.
Speaker C:There's at least six versions of it.
Speaker C:I welcome to the what's Every podcast where we fashion ourselves cinematic judge and jury.
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Speaker A:I'm a little confused here, Jay.
Speaker C:Well, if you don't say I'm fat, then you're a liar.
Speaker C:But funny, I suppose, is subjective.
Speaker C:But we're.
Speaker C:We're here kicking off a new month, which means a new topic, which means new movies.
Speaker C:And this topic, I don't remember what we titled this one.
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Speaker C:Yeah, all time favorite comedies.
Speaker C:This one was tough because there's some funny stuff.
Speaker C:But we're kicking off the the month of all time favorite comedies with Tommy Boy.
Speaker C:Tommy boy was released March 31.
Speaker C:Hey, that's my birthday.
Speaker C:1995.
Speaker C:It was written by Bonnie Turner and Terry Turner.
Speaker C:It's directed by Peter Seagal.
Speaker C:Stars Chris Farley, David Spade, Brian Dennehy, Bo Derek, Dan Aykroyd, Julie Werner, Sean McCann, Zach Griner and Paul Greenberg.
Speaker C:It is about an auto part.
Speaker C:A man whose auto parts tycoon father dies.
Speaker C:The overweight, underachieving son then teams up with a snide accountant to try and save the family business.
Speaker C:Tommy Boy.
Speaker C:Whose pick was this?
Speaker C:This was not my pick.
Speaker B:I don't remember if I picked this.
Speaker A:That could have been Me.
Speaker A:I mean, I.
Speaker A:I like Tommy Boy.
Speaker A:I feel like.
Speaker B:When did we pick this?
Speaker C:This was a while ago.
Speaker C:I think it was yours, Alex.
Speaker A:I think it was Alex, because I know Alex, because I know I put down Happy Gilmore, and I'm pretty sure I put down.
Speaker C:Did Jay.
Speaker A:Did you put down.
Speaker B:This was me.
Speaker C:No, it was mine.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker A:Oh, I would have put that down.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker C:Hot Fuzz and Tommy Boy were Alex choices to get voted on.
Speaker C:And then I think yours were Tropic Thunder and Dodgeball.
Speaker C:And then, Oh, I have to say.
Speaker A:All the movies we're doing this month, no complaints in the slightest from me.
Speaker A:And I don't know if I've ever been able to say that for a whole month.
Speaker B:No, this makes sense now.
Speaker B:Look at.
Speaker B:Looking at her.
Speaker B:Let's say, yeah, this was me because I don't like Dodgeball.
Speaker C:This is gonna be an interesting month.
Speaker C:Like, Matson's all tuned up, and I'm like, yeah.
Speaker A:These are all great comedies.
Speaker A:Y'all just gonna hate on dodgeball.
Speaker C:Would we use the word great?
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker C:Like.
Speaker A:When you're saying Bill and Ted's a great comedy, that's.
Speaker A:We're already off on the wrong foot.
Speaker B:I don't believe that was on the list.
Speaker C:It wasn't?
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:I never made it.
Speaker C:It got banned on the list along with Pineapple, Pineapple Express.
Speaker A:What movie are we talking about again?
Speaker C:Tommy Boy?
Speaker A:I'd speak funny, Alex.
Speaker C:So what?
Speaker C:Why Tommy Boy?
Speaker B:Why not Tommy Boy?
Speaker B:This is just easily quotable, stupid funny.
Speaker B:And it's a movie that I was actually quoting before.
Speaker B:I'd seen it all the way through the first time, just from other people talking about it.
Speaker B:So when I.
Speaker B:Because I.
Speaker B:I didn't grow up watching this movie, so I saw it first time, and I was like, wait a minute.
Speaker B:Wait a minute.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:I know that.
Speaker B:Wait, no.
Speaker B:Oh, cool.
Speaker B:Funny.
Speaker B:But it's.
Speaker B:I mean, it's just such a great, funny movie that you can watch time and time again.
Speaker B:Chris Farley is phenomenal.
Speaker B:And then you add in David Spade as being just really David Spade.
Speaker B:Like, he doesn't act in this movie.
Speaker B:It's just himself.
Speaker B:And it's a perfect little buddy comedy that cracks you up.
Speaker B:You can sit down and watch it line for line and just focus on it, or you can put it on the background and still enjoy it.
Speaker B:So, yeah, no.
Speaker B:Love Tommy Boy.
Speaker C:Interesting.
Speaker C:I love Chris Farley.
Speaker C:I.
Speaker C:I don't think without Chris.
Speaker C:I think without Chris Farley, the worst thing that ever happened to David Spade was Chris Farley passing away.
Speaker C:Because, yes, David Spade is garbage without Chris Farley.
Speaker C:I don't think he's done anything funny after Chris Farley passed away.
Speaker C:Which was a shame, because Chris Farley, hilarious.
Speaker C:Like, he absolutely carried Saturday Night Live for, like, three years because he's hysterical.
Speaker C:He was a genius.
Speaker C:Sometimes he's a little much for me after a while.
Speaker C:Like, and there was, like, a series of.
Speaker C:Like, he did.
Speaker C:Like, there was, like, in this time frame, the mid-90s, where he.
Speaker C:Early in mid-90s, where he did just so many movies.
Speaker C:They were the same damn movie, just a different theme.
Speaker B:Like Beverly Hills Ninja.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Like, there was just so many that he was just.
Speaker C:But, like, watching him, the physical comedy will never stop being funny.
Speaker C:Like, so he.
Speaker C:This is another movie like, that he absolutely carries.
Speaker C:Like, there's very little to me that's funny out of this.
Speaker C:In this movie outside of Chris Farley.
Speaker C:Now I will say so.
Speaker C:This movie came out when I was 14.
Speaker C:Shut up.
Speaker C:But, like, the.
Speaker C:And I saw it in the theaters and all my friends, like, I was sitting in the theater watching everybody just, like, die laughing.
Speaker C:And I was laughing, but I was looking around going, yeah, I don't have the same style of humor that everybody else does because everybody's losing their.
Speaker C:To this.
Speaker C:And I was like, okay.
Speaker C:And even today, like, I was watching it and it was on while I was doing some stuff, and Casey comes walking through.
Speaker C:Their sister's here, and she's like, jj's watching Tommy Boy.
Speaker C:And then I'd hear them back there quoting it the whole rest of the day.
Speaker C:And I'm like, it is an iconic film, but, like, there are parts where I'm like, okay, we can skip, because this isn't funny.
Speaker C:It's just dumb.
Speaker C:What about you, Matson?
Speaker C:What if.
Speaker C:Would you.
Speaker C:What are your.
Speaker A:Yeah, you know, good question.
Speaker A:Like, this movie's funny.
Speaker A:I think I'm in more of your camp overall, Jay.
Speaker A:Like, I think I haven't seen all the things I've seen of Chris Riley, but I've seen enough of them.
Speaker A:And I think he's.
Speaker A:He plays himself in a lot of different movies, but this is the most iconic one.
Speaker A:So I've seen this movie the most.
Speaker A:I grew up seeing, like, most of this movie on TV in bits and pieces.
Speaker A:And then I went back and watched it more than a few years ago, and I've seen it a couple times, and there's definitely some scenes that just make me chuckle.
Speaker A:Just like, Chris Farley's got a way of just being overly excited about like, the smallest of things.
Speaker A:And, like, when he gets his D plus to, like, cow tipping to just shoot, I mean, anything, like, he could just make you so darn excited.
Speaker A:Like, when he meets his dad, like, their whole, like, the greeting, like, heartwarmingly funny.
Speaker A:I was like, you know what?
Speaker A:I probably could see them being that stupid and funny and all that.
Speaker A:And so all that to say, like, I think he's really funny.
Speaker A:David Spade's not really my cup of tea.
Speaker A:But in this, like, I know that they work well.
Speaker A:I know they have that history in snl, and this was like a movie version of that.
Speaker A:This movie makes me smile.
Speaker A:It makes me laugh at parts, but it's not.
Speaker A:It's not like my go to.
Speaker A:But I.
Speaker A:This is, I think, one of those cold falling moves I got bigger after the fact that people really like that.
Speaker A:I can understand why they like where you're like, I can't believe you hate Uncle Buck and all that stuff.
Speaker A:This one, I'm like, I get why people really like this move.
Speaker A:And they think it's funny.
Speaker A:It can be.
Speaker A:Feel a little bit over the top and a little laborious at times.
Speaker A:But I think Chris Farley carries it for that.
Speaker A:I think it's a good tribute to his career, may he rest in peace.
Speaker A:And he makes me smile.
Speaker C:I will say to Alex point, there are very few movies that are more quotable.
Speaker C:In this movie, I still to this day, I mean, almost, what, 30 years later, 20 years later, whatever the it is, like, find myself not so much here or here, but right here.
Speaker C:Like that one.
Speaker C:Like, anytime I hit my head or like.
Speaker C:You know what I mean?
Speaker C:Like, that's gonna leave a mark.
Speaker C:Yeah, like that.
Speaker C:Like, there are.
Speaker C:There are quotes in this movie that are.
Speaker C:That are timeless and will live on.
Speaker C:And I'm not even great at movie quotes.
Speaker C:Like, Casey gives me all the time about, like, she'll say something.
Speaker C:She goes, you know what that's from?
Speaker C:And I'm like, you know, I don't, like.
Speaker C:I'm not great at movie quotes.
Speaker A:I'm terrible at him.
Speaker C:But this movie, there's very, like, you could say movies quotes from this one.
Speaker C:And I'm like, ah, this is Tommy boy.
Speaker A:One of my favorite quotes that I had to, like, look up to remember after the fact when he says, I'm gonna read it because I can't remember it all the time.
Speaker A:I can get a good look at a T bone by sticking my head up a bull's ass, but I'd rather take a butcher's word for It.
Speaker B:I don't think that was.
Speaker B:I think it was.
Speaker B:I can get a good look at a butcher by looking up his ass.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, I know I butchered it.
Speaker A:But, like, it's.
Speaker C:There's at least six versions of it.
Speaker A:I mean, it's so funny.
Speaker A:And like, all.
Speaker A:There's a lot of that, like.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:And I went.
Speaker C:I mean, I went.
Speaker C:Like, there was a year.
Speaker C:God, it was a while ago.
Speaker C:One of my good friends used to throw.
Speaker C:His birthday's right near Halloween, so he always used to throw the Halloween party at his place.
Speaker C:And they got pretty big.
Speaker C:But you.
Speaker C:We'd all.
Speaker C:Everybody go dressed up and.
Speaker C:And I went with this fat man in a little coat.
Speaker C:Like, I went to Savers and bought a little tiny jacket and ripped the.
Speaker C:Out of that.
Speaker C:And all I did was put it on and stretching.
Speaker C:And it was imperfect because.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So, I mean, like, there are parts of this movie that you just cannot.
Speaker A:Brothers don't shake hands.
Speaker A:Brothers hug.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Bees.
Speaker C:Bees in the car.
Speaker B:That believe that word.
Speaker A:I can't believe there's a guy out there that wouldn't have sex with your mother.
Speaker C:And it's just like the.
Speaker C:And the people that are in this movie, like, I think that's both of movies we're going to talk about here in this session.
Speaker C:But like this one, like, Back in the Night, like, you just had like, Bo Derek and Rob Lowe and like, Brian Dennehy.
Speaker C:Like, there's some huge actors in this movie.
Speaker C:And so it was really funny.
Speaker C:And then like, that first time you see those two making out, you're like, wait, what?
Speaker C:Whoa.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:One of me laughed the most with.
Speaker A:From Rob Lowe is when he is.
Speaker A:What.
Speaker A:What did he say something like, did you eat a lot of, like, paint chips or something when you were a kid?
Speaker A:And I was like, that's so fitting.
Speaker A:We've all heard that phrase before.
Speaker C:Yeah, well.
Speaker C:And then just the response is just as good.
Speaker C:Like, no denial there.
Speaker C:Like, I don't know.
Speaker C:And that's.
Speaker C:I think, Chris Farley.
Speaker C:I.
Speaker C:I would.
Speaker C:Would have loved to have, like, been on a set with Chris Farley and just watched to see.
Speaker C:Because I would imagine that a lot.
Speaker C:And I don't know for sure because I haven't really looked into it, but I would imagine that a lot of what he did was off the cuff.
Speaker C:And I got.
Speaker C:It's just.
Speaker C:It's funny.
Speaker A:Well, they said a lot of it was like, there's a scene, remember, he tackles David Spade's character in that scene.
Speaker A:He ends up breaking Spade's finger and they keep going, oh, I didn't know that.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then the housekeeping scene, that's all ad libbed.
Speaker C:Yeah, well, that's another housekeeping.
Speaker C:I mean, how many times have you done that shit, right?
Speaker C:Like, all the bloody.
Speaker C:I've done it so many times.
Speaker C:Like, I don't think it was that long ago that I did that.
Speaker C:Like, in fact, I think I walked into one of the.
Speaker C:One of my game nights and was like, there was like, whoa.
Speaker C:And I'm like, housekeeping.
Speaker C:Like, just because it's one of those lines.
Speaker B:It's what you do.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I mean, it's just, you know.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:There's so many instances.
Speaker C:Well, and then like the iconic scene of like him doing his first sales pitch and like the.
Speaker C:Seriously, like, I still sometimes will be like, when somebody's gonna get to need an ambulance, but like they're driving off the cliff and he's just destroying.
Speaker C:Lights it on fire.
Speaker C:Dude, that whole scene, iconic.
Speaker C:Like, when I think Tommy boy, that's the scene that I probably think.
Speaker C:It's not the quote I think of, but that's the scene that I think of the most.
Speaker C:Is that one hilarious?
Speaker A:What's the in dumb?
Speaker A:What's the character?
Speaker A:The guy in Dumb or Dumber?
Speaker A:Not Drew Care or what's not that guy?
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:The guy that looks at Chris Farry, not Jim Carrey.
Speaker A:What's the other guy's the actor's name?
Speaker C:Oh, you talking about Jeff Daniels?
Speaker A:Have him and did Tim.
Speaker A:Did him and Chris Farley ever do a movie together?
Speaker C:I don't think so.
Speaker A:I felt like.
Speaker A:I feel like him and Chris Fried, for whatever reason, they kind of remind me of each other and the.
Speaker A:The type of characters that they play a little bit, at least in some of the movies.
Speaker A:I just was thinking the other day, I was like, when I watched this, I was like, man, did they ever make a movie together?
Speaker A:If they did, that could probably be their version of like Bill and Ted or something.
Speaker C:It's so interesting because Jeff Daniels, like, that's one of the only real comedies, at least extreme comedies he's done.
Speaker C:He does a lot of series.
Speaker C:Like, he did.
Speaker C:I think he was in Arachnophobia back in the day, which horror comedy.
Speaker C:And so he was really goofy in that.
Speaker C:But like, he's done a lot of serious stuff too, so.
Speaker C:But yeah, like, I don't think they've ever done anything, but they would have been funny together because Jeff Daniels is hilarious.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:I just always think I was like, man, they.
Speaker A:They could be really funny together.
Speaker A:But, yeah, Chris Farley just does.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:I want to.
Speaker A:I wanted to ask.
Speaker A:I know we're gonna do Happy Gilmore later this month, but Adam Sandler, he went on a run of movies that were not, it's hard to say, like, similar premise and like the vibes, but obviously different, like, plot.
Speaker A:But did you get tired of how you kind of.
Speaker A:You talked about Chris Farr, like, being like, the same character just in a different movie?
Speaker A:Did you get to feel the same way about, like, Adam Sandler and Happy Gilmore and Billy Madison and some of the other things he did around that time?
Speaker C:Yeah, and I'm sure we'll talk more about that in the.
Speaker C:When we talk about Happy Gilmore.
Speaker C:But, yeah, I mean, it's similar.
Speaker C:And I think there's a lot of actors that, like, when you think about it, they hit something hits big like Tommy Boy, and then it's like, oh, well, there's the formula for however many movies we can do.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:And it was the same for Sandler.
Speaker C:He did.
Speaker C:He did Billy Madison and then it was.
Speaker C:And then did.
Speaker C:Followed it up with Happy Gilmore.
Speaker C:And then it was like, well, let's see how long we can ride this train.
Speaker C:And then he started doing some different stuff later.
Speaker C:And I, like I said, I mean.
Speaker A:Actors still all the time.
Speaker A:He's the dude that did Olympus Is Falling.
Speaker A:What's His Wife?
Speaker A:Why I can't remember the main character's name.
Speaker A:He did all those, like, Gerard Butler.
Speaker A:Yeah, he did like, what, like five of those or four of those and you're like, one was enough.
Speaker C:Well, let's let Liam Neeson.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:I mean, how many times can we watch this dude, like, save his daughter right before we're like, the.
Speaker C:Wrong with you, dude.
Speaker C:Like, so I.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I mean, there's.
Speaker C:And then even outside of the actual.
Speaker C:Those movies, like he played, he just leaned into that.
Speaker C:That character style.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:And so, yeah, I think you.
Speaker C:You've.
Speaker C:Actors, movies, we've talked about this before.
Speaker C:Like, they look for, here's what's going to make us money.
Speaker C:It worked once.
Speaker C:Why wouldn't it work 12 times?
Speaker C:So let's, let's just.
Speaker A:But I feel like for comedy actors, especially those that start in comedy, it's probably even harder to get away from that because you think about some of the best comedy actors out there, like, who's really stepped away completely from comedy and had success outside of that.
Speaker A:Like, you probably count them on one hand.
Speaker C:Yeah, there's not many.
Speaker C:That's one of the unfortunate things.
Speaker C:So, like, here's the crazy part, though, because you look at like a Jim Carrey comedy actors tend to be some of the best dramatic actors out there.
Speaker C:Jim Carrey, wow.
Speaker C:Why can't I think.
Speaker C:Oh, my goodness.
Speaker C:I keep wanting to say Mork, but like, why can't I think what movies?
Speaker C:The way.
Speaker C:Yeah, Robin Williams, he like.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:You ever watch any of his dramatic stuff?
Speaker C:Holy.
Speaker C:Like, I mean, look at Good Will Hunting.
Speaker C:Just that movie alone, like that.
Speaker C:They make great serious actors, dramatic actors.
Speaker C:The problem is a lot of people are afraid to cast them because their cast type as these funny guys.
Speaker C:Like, it's just like.
Speaker C:So it's hard for them to break out and it's.
Speaker C:It's just as hard for dramatic actors to jump into comedy.
Speaker C:That's why Jeff Daniels is one of those weird ones that's done a little bit of both.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:But you look at most comedy actors, unfortunately get stuck in a certain type of.
Speaker C:Like Eddie Murphy, for example, he did, you know, Beverly Hills Cops, some of the funniest stuff.
Speaker C:Now you.
Speaker C:I mean, what was the other one?
Speaker C:Another.
Speaker C:And I keep wanting to say another stake out, but that's not him at all.
Speaker C:But like the buddy comedy, he did two different versions of that.
Speaker C:And then all the other stuff, like coming to America, I mean, it's the same type of comedy.
Speaker C:You just inject Eddie Murphy's comedy style and that's what sells tickets.
Speaker C:That's what made the money back then.
Speaker C:And the same with, with Chris Farley.
Speaker C:It's not that the movies were good.
Speaker C:Let's be honest.
Speaker C:Tommy Boy is not a good movie.
Speaker B:The 90s had one movie.
Speaker C:Sure, that's it.
Speaker B:There was one movie in the 90s.
Speaker C:And yeah, this was it.
Speaker C:That's fair.
Speaker C:The 90s are a really hard one.
Speaker B:There's one plot that you just recycle and it's like playing Mad Libs.
Speaker C:That's fair too.
Speaker C:That's fair too.
Speaker C:But I think that's the trouble.
Speaker C:Like one of the tricks with comedy, right?
Speaker C:Because comedy is only as good as the funny people in it.
Speaker C:And if you don't hit.
Speaker C:And that's why comedy is so diverse too.
Speaker C:Like we have this argument on this podcast on a regular basis.
Speaker C:Like, there are three very different mindsets to comedy in this room, in this chat.
Speaker C:But.
Speaker C:And that's why comedy's tough.
Speaker C:Like drama's drama.
Speaker C:Like, you can watch an action movie, you can watch drama movie.
Speaker C:Neither like it or you don't comedy.
Speaker C:You could have three different opinions on how funny it was, but only one.
Speaker B:Of Them is right.
Speaker B:The other two are wrong.
Speaker C:That's right, you fuckers.
Speaker C:Get out of here.
Speaker C:Because you're all.
Speaker A:Comedy is also hard because you can.
Speaker C:We.
Speaker A:And we've run in this.
Speaker A:When we review it, it can be one type of comedy and it can get exhaustive.
Speaker A:Like partway through the movie, some of the comedies that I like the best, I feel like mix it up in terms of, like, the slapstick or the physical comedy or the Wii comedy or the dark humor, and it's hard to blend all of that together.
Speaker A:And I think I'm one of those people where at times would it be better if I could laugh?
Speaker A:Be more willing or readily able to laugh sooner?
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker A:Like, I'm not that friend, as I always say.
Speaker A:Like my little brother, for instance, or even like, JJ is a good example.
Speaker A:You want those people in the room when you watch a comedy because they're willing.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:It's hard to say.
Speaker A:Willing is not the right word.
Speaker A:You just laugh sooner.
Speaker A:And I appreciate that because it.
Speaker A:Especially movies that I know are funny that I'm watching again, it's always great to have, like home.
Speaker A:The Home Alones, for instance.
Speaker A:I love them and I'll laugh, but like, I love.
Speaker A:Have my little brother there or someone else, because it just makes the room.
Speaker A:The vibes are already there.
Speaker A:You already know, like, you're.
Speaker A:You're like, are you ready for.
Speaker A:You ready for this moment?
Speaker A:Like all those.
Speaker A:But that's why I think it's so hard to make a comedy, because Action.
Speaker A:Yeah, you can put too much action.
Speaker A:I mean, there's always too much of anything.
Speaker A:But it's.
Speaker A:I just feel like the formulas in some of these other movies, it can be easier to hit where comedy.
Speaker A:What.
Speaker C:What?
Speaker A:What was working 10 minutes ago May not work now.
Speaker C:Yeah, like watching Alec hit his leg on his desk or whatever it was.
Speaker B:It was funny like a.
Speaker A:But if you kept doing it 10 times and yeah, right now we'd be like, yeah, that was one too many.
Speaker A:So that's why it just.
Speaker A:It's hard.
Speaker A:So even saying a perfect comedy, a lot of these, like, really great comedies doesn't mean it was a good movie.
Speaker A:But the performances were strong, and so I feel like you.
Speaker A:It's tough.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I think comedy is probably one of the hardest, if not the hardest genre to.
Speaker A:You can't make a good comedy these days because you can't what Something.
Speaker A:Another good thing about comedies is you need to have free reign to make fun of anything.
Speaker A:And I feel like nowadays, think of it like I can't even think of a good comedy I've seen lately.
Speaker C:Pretty much.
Speaker C:I'm trying to think.
Speaker C:I don't.
Speaker C:I mean, we've done it.
Speaker C:We tried to do a couple.
Speaker C:Even some of the old ones that worked don't work anymore.
Speaker C:I will say the newest Beverly Hills Cop was pretty funny.
Speaker C:Wasn't great movie, but I had some.
Speaker C:It was funny, but I think that's nostalgia funny.
Speaker C:I don't know that it would only.
Speaker A:Yeah, it was only funny because you connected.
Speaker A:It was something new.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:Nah.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker C:Yeah, I don't remember.
Speaker A:Like, I'm thinking about, like, a really good kind of like, I feel like our.
Speaker A:The world over the past, you know, six, seven, eight years.
Speaker A:Like, we just.
Speaker A:It's hard.
Speaker A:Like, there's so many things you need.
Speaker A:You need to be able to have free rein and know that it's, hey, this is a standup or it's a calling.
Speaker A:Like, look, this isn't personal.
Speaker A:It's just fun.
Speaker A:But so many things become like that, that black box.
Speaker A:If you touch it, you're gone type of thing.
Speaker A:And I like, you can't do anything in comedy.
Speaker A:Like, there's some lines where, like, in the 70s and 80s and early 90s, like, yeah, like, maybe we shouldn't do that, but now we can't do anything.
Speaker A:I feel like, yeah, you have to.
Speaker C:Shift with the times and it's.
Speaker C:It's hard to do and get away.
Speaker A:With it because I feel like, I mean, Hollywood, if we're scratching our head singing.
Speaker A:But what's a good comedy?
Speaker A:Like, I feel like Hollywood staying away from it in a sense, like, it's just.
Speaker A:It's not where they know the money can be made because it's difficult.
Speaker C:Yeah, it's.
Speaker C:I.
Speaker C:It's funny.
Speaker C:I try to.
Speaker C:I've been trying to think back on, like, the movies that we've done recently or the movies that I've seen recently.
Speaker C:And I think the lot.
Speaker C:The one that comes to mind that really had me, like, just in stitches laughing was Cop out.
Speaker C:But.
Speaker C:Or not cop Out.
Speaker C:What was the one with the.
Speaker C:The sheriff's office thing?
Speaker C:It was more of an action movie was the design of it.
Speaker C:But, like, damn, was I laughing my ass off.
Speaker C:And it wasn't.
Speaker C:But it was because it was so absurd at times.
Speaker C:Like, and it wasn't designed to be a comedy.
Speaker C:What was the name of that damn movie?
Speaker C:Something cop.
Speaker C:Anyway, like, where they.
Speaker C:The guy gets himself arrested because he's like, they're trying to assassinate his ass in the.
Speaker C:And so he's stuck in the sheriff's office.
Speaker C:State of the art sheriff's office with the.
Speaker C:The lady cop that shoots herself and she's like, dude, oh, man.
Speaker C:Anyway, it'll come to me, but I can't remember.
Speaker C:But that's the last time I remember just seriously, like, laughing my ass off was that one.
Speaker C:But, yeah, comedies are hard to come by these days.
Speaker B:I think Bill and Ted Face the Music was my last one that I cackled in.
Speaker C:Oh, I.
Speaker C:Don't get me wrong, I laughed my ass off on that one, too.
Speaker A:Yeah, but that was.
Speaker C:Again, I can.
Speaker B:It's mixed with.
Speaker B:It's comedy mixed with action nowadays or mixed with drama.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's like thinking like the new Jumanji's, for instance.
Speaker A:Like, it was a comedy, but it.
Speaker B:Was also like an action thriller.
Speaker A:Action, like comedy.
Speaker A:Action comedy is, I feel, like, as close as we come to things where comedy still isn't the main thing, but it's blended in enough that it is a sig.
Speaker A:It's a thing, but not the thing.
Speaker A:And that's where I feel like the balance has been achieved a little bit more so than.
Speaker A:Because even, like, you think of all the Kevin Hart movies with the rock and everything, like, they found, like, a decent formula there, but then a lot of them became the same thing, but it was more like these action comedy movies.
Speaker A:But I wouldn't call, like, outright comedy.
Speaker A:They needed other things to carry it.
Speaker C:Yeah, they don't.
Speaker C:It's rare to see a straight comedy anymore.
Speaker C:And a lot of them that are coming out like they're working on Happy Gilmore too.
Speaker C:Like, it's ones that worked in the 80s and 90s.
Speaker A:I didn't know that.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:They're like, we'll lean into the.
Speaker C:The nostalg of it all.
Speaker C:And again, I.
Speaker C:Look, I.
Speaker C:We talk about Bill and Ted and I laugh my ass off at the third Bill and Ted.
Speaker C:But again, there's a nostalgia there level there.
Speaker A:Didn't need it, though.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I mean, I could have gone without it, but I'm glad they made it because I thought it was hilarious.
Speaker C:I love the movie, but how much of that is because of what it.
Speaker C:The nostalgia and the remembrance of the first two that I think are really great movies and far better than the third one, but that's where.
Speaker C:And the Beverly Hills Cop 2, like the coming to America, too.
Speaker C:Like the.
Speaker C:All of these ones that were funny comedies when I was a kid or a young man, and now, like, jumping back into them because that's the only way you're Gonna get away with it.
Speaker A:Happy Gilmore, too.
Speaker A:That feels desperate.
Speaker A:That's so long ago.
Speaker C:Yeah, but I'm looking forward to it because they're bringing the whole cast back, except for Chubbs, of course.
Speaker C:Unfortunately.
Speaker A:Hey, Chubbs will find a way.
Speaker A:He'll.
Speaker A:There'll be a heavenly vision or something.
Speaker A:But no, they can't.
Speaker A:Actually, I was gonna say the actors passed as.
Speaker A:As I was saying, I was like.
Speaker A:Well, because I was thinking, first he actually died in the movie.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then I was like, wait, he actually, like, died Died?
Speaker C:Yeah, unfortunately.
Speaker A:Hey, CGI AI, they could do it if they wanted to.
Speaker A:You got to get the family.
Speaker A:That's the weird stuff.
Speaker A:Like, there's a world now where if you wanted to, you could.
Speaker A:Oh, really?
Speaker C:Sure.
Speaker A:You could bring somebody back.
Speaker C:They just announced.
Speaker C:So here's one for you.
Speaker C:So, on that same topic, Christopher Lee will be in the new animated versions of the Lord of the Rings that they're making because he talked.
Speaker C:They talked to his estate, his family.
Speaker A:Estate, and they said.
Speaker C:And they talked to his wife prior.
Speaker C:Now she's passed away since, too, but they got written permission to rock and they're piecing old.
Speaker C:That's awesome audio from the original trilogy that they got from him, and they're using it to make.
Speaker C:So he'll play Saruman in these.
Speaker C:And so, yeah, I mean, it's certainly possible as long as you get the right permissions.
Speaker C:And, you know, I think.
Speaker C:I mean, this is way off topic of this movie, even though maybe it's not.
Speaker C:Because, like, I know there was talk at some point of releasing additional footage of or making a Chris Farley film and things like that and getting some facial stuff to work on that, but, like, deep cut stuff.
Speaker C:But they.
Speaker C:There's a lot of fight going on with it.
Speaker C:And I'm not a fan of the idea of someone being able to use your likeness in perpetuity just because you starred in a film one time.
Speaker C:But.
Speaker A:No, I'm cool with it.
Speaker A:Like, your state or you, like, say, hey, do what you want.
Speaker A:I'm cool with it.
Speaker A:But, yeah, unless.
Speaker A:Unless proper permissions are made.
Speaker A:I don't think that feels sketchy.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, but tatami boy, we got way off topic there, kind of.
Speaker C:But I think this is one that I would mark down as much as it's not like, my favorite movie of all time.
Speaker C:Like, I would still mark it down as, like, an absolute 100 classic.
Speaker C:Like, I don't know that they're even.
Speaker C:Like, sometimes I'll talk about movies and, like, my nieces Are like, huh?
Speaker C:What movie's that?
Speaker C:Never even heard of that.
Speaker C:And then I'm sad.
Speaker C:But, like, this is one that even, like, my young teenage nieces know about.
Speaker C:You know what I mean?
Speaker C:So it's.
Speaker C:It's hard to get.
Speaker C:There's not a lot of movies that raise to that level.
Speaker A:This movie, just for me, like, I don't.
Speaker A:I don't think I jump at, like, watching it end to end all the time, but it's.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's a class.
Speaker A:Like, it's hard to call this anymore because TV's not like it used to be.
Speaker A:But if there was, like, hey, I don't have anything I want to watch, and this was on, like, I would.
Speaker A:Especially if it was at certain scenes, like, 100, I.
Speaker A:You'd find me planted there.
Speaker A:But I think it's one of those, like, every once in a blue moon, I think of Tommy Bore, some of those quotes, and like, oh, man, I should probably watch that again.
Speaker A:That's usually how it comes up.
Speaker A:And I'm like, every time I'm happy I did.
Speaker C:Yeah, same here.
Speaker C:Like, I wasn't.
Speaker C:It was kind of interesting because I wasn't actually looking forward to watching this movie when it was on the list.
Speaker C:Like, I was like, ah, Tommy boy.
Speaker C:And then I started watching it, and I found myself laughing and going, okay, I remember why this is funny.
Speaker C:And I remember why I quote this movie.
Speaker C:Because then I think.
Speaker C:Sometimes I think I relate to what we were talking about where, like, the fatigue of Chris Farley.
Speaker C:Like, I still find myself fatigued by Chris Farley sometimes.
Speaker C:Like, I'd rather go back and watch SNL clips.
Speaker C:Like the.
Speaker C:Down by the River.
Speaker C:Like, all that stuff.
Speaker C:Like, watching him get the amount of SNL people that he was able to break on a consistent basis, that just was testament to how funny the dude was.
Speaker C:And I prefer watching his old.
Speaker C:And I don't even love SNL that much, but I loved Chris Farley on.
Speaker A:Snl, his old stuff.
Speaker A:I mean, Chris, far as a human being, I'm sure he was one of the funnier people I'd.
Speaker A:Like, he could have just killed me constantly.
Speaker A:Like, every day I just died of laughing.
Speaker A:Because the dude just.
Speaker A:Yeah, he's got that going for him.
Speaker A:J.J.
Speaker A:would have just been, like, tickled pink.
Speaker A:Oh, laughing all the time.
Speaker C:He might have killed me.
Speaker C:I don't.
Speaker C:Well, because, like, I love his physical stuff.
Speaker C:Like, when he does, like, the whole, like, the way he swings his body around sometimes and the heights, dude, that's some of the funniest I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker C:Absolutely love it.
Speaker C:So I suppose I.
Speaker C:I'll say, good pick, Alec.
Speaker C:I'll say, good pick.
Speaker C:I feel like you're underrepresented here because you're the one that, like, is like, yeah, Tommy Boy.
Speaker B:I'm all for Tommy Boy.
Speaker B:I mean, really, what you guys are saying makes sense.
Speaker B:I mean, I love physical comedy.
Speaker B:We've talked about this before when we've done chaplain films.
Speaker B:And to be able to pull off physical comedy is incredibly difficult.
Speaker B:And Chris Farley does it and then adds kind of the verbal aspect to it as well.
Speaker B:So while he's swinging around, he's telling funny jokes.
Speaker B:And one that gets me is the freaking gas station scene where car door goes.
Speaker B:And then you just get this image over David Spade's shoulder of him trying to put the car back together.
Speaker C:What did you do?
Speaker B:And so it's all the little aspects that he does that make it super enjoyable.
Speaker B:And then it just sticks with you for a very long time after you see it.
Speaker B:You know, Tommy Boy.
Speaker B:You're like, oh, yeah, Tommy Boy, Tommy Boy.
Speaker B:You start quoting it when you don't realize you're quoting it.
Speaker B:So it's one of those movies that, like, they don't make them like that anymore, where you have this kind of longevity aspect to it and a really a generational enjoyment factor as well, where you've got people who never seen Tommy Boy, then their lives are changed once they do.
Speaker A:It's funny is this movie was not popular when it came out.
Speaker A:Like, it took a while to become something.
Speaker A:And I think Chris Farley's death probably helped push that in that direction.
Speaker A:But, yeah, people.
Speaker A:I mean, that cult following is really strong for this movie.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And the quotability helped too, because that's what my niece, one day, I don't need.
Speaker C:Like, she was.
Speaker C:I was at her house.
Speaker C:She was really young.
Speaker C:She was like that.
Speaker C:She hit her head or she bumped into something.
Speaker C:She goes, that's gonna leave a mark.
Speaker C:And I was like.
Speaker C:And I start laughing.
Speaker C:And she goes, was it that funny?
Speaker C:I'm like, yeah.
Speaker C:Do you even know what you're talking about?
Speaker C:And so then we sat down and watched Tommy Boy so that she could see where that came from.
Speaker C:You know what I mean?
Speaker C:She had quoted it without ever even.
Speaker C:Because she was way too young.
Speaker C:I mean, I think she was like 9 or 10.
Speaker C:And I'm like, okay, now you gotta watch Tommy Boy with me because you think you're funny, but you don't know where your funny comes from.
Speaker C:You know what I mean?
Speaker C:So it's like, in the amount of stuff that he had, especially from this movie, is outrageously good.
Speaker C:So I.
Speaker C:It was funny movie, funny movie.
Speaker C:Should we rate it?
Speaker B:Let's do it.
Speaker C:All right, Alec, it's on you, buddy.
Speaker B:All on me.
Speaker B:I'm gonna give Tommy Boy A4.
Speaker B:It is all time classic, all time great.
Speaker B:You can never really be upset while you're watching Tommy Boy.
Speaker B:It has the sh.
Speaker B:It is the most 90 movie that has ever been made.
Speaker B:They really only had one.
Speaker B:And this is right there in the wheelhouse of what a 90s movie is, down to the goddamn background soundtrack while they're driving through the country.
Speaker B:But I love it.
Speaker B:I'll watch it anytime.
Speaker B:Hands down quotes, I was d.
Speaker B:I was JJ's niece quoting it before I'd even seen it.
Speaker B:So this has been a part of my life before I even watched it, which is not something that really you can say about movies.
Speaker B:So, yeah, four for me.
Speaker C:Matt.
Speaker A:I'm gonna give it a three.
Speaker A:I think it's enjoyable.
Speaker A:Something that I'll.
Speaker A:When it's all.
Speaker A:Watch here and there.
Speaker A:I think it's a good tribute to Chris Farley.
Speaker A:I think it's funny.
Speaker A:But I'm in JJ's camp a little bit that even when I do watch it, I remind myself of, like, why it takes so long for me to watch it again, because just.
Speaker A:There's just some fatigue in.
Speaker A:In the way that Farley's Persona, like, it's just so large in life and charismatic.
Speaker A:But I don't know that I'm glad this movie isn't longer, but at the same time so quotable.
Speaker A:Some really funny moments.
Speaker A:And it's hard not to smile and laugh at certain parts.
Speaker C:This one's hard for me.
Speaker C:I'm also going to give it a three.
Speaker C:I think I'm going to say that with the caveat of if the movie itself was better, like the what the outside of Chris Farley and the quotable things were a little bit better, it would get a higher score for me.
Speaker C:But when I look at this movie, and I.
Speaker C:Even today was watching it, it's.
Speaker C:It's not good.
Speaker C:It's just funny because of Farley and sometimes because of the way David Spade interacts with Chris Farley or because Brian Dennehy acting like an absolute heathen with Chris Farley is hilarious.
Speaker C:But I.
Speaker C:If you notice, there's a theme here.
Speaker C:Chris Farley's involved in all of that.
Speaker C:And this movie would not be successful even remotely if it weren't for Chris Farley.
Speaker C:And so it's one of those things where it's hard for me to give it a super high score no matter how funny it is because it's so one note and then not.
Speaker C:This has nothing to do with the score.
Speaker C:But then it spawned, you know, half a dozen other movies that were like, well, Chris Farley can carry a movie.
Speaker C:So let's just make whatever can be written.
Speaker C:If we feel like we can inject Chris Farley into this movie, let's make it.
Speaker C:And it worked from a financial perspective and because Chris Farley was Chris Farley.
Speaker C:So I wish he was still around because he'd be making some funny ass.
Speaker C:I'm sure that I would still be enjoying no matter how many times I've seen it over and over again.
Speaker C:But from the perspective of this movie, like, obviously there's no way I'll ever say I won't watch this movie again because it's funny as hell.
Speaker C:But I also prefer the clips of it, right?
Speaker C:The stuff that is really funny and that really works as a movie.
Speaker C:Overall, I don't love watching it from front to back, like, because it.
Speaker C:When it's not funny, it's really not funny and it's really bad and I'm like, I just don't want to watch this.
Speaker C:But man, when it's funny, when there's a deer waking up in the back of the car, like, that shit's hilarious.
Speaker C:So, yeah, three for me as well.
Speaker C:It's a good one to kick off.
Speaker C:I mean it's hard to.
Speaker C:Good one to kick off the.
Speaker C:The month of comedies.
Speaker C:Epic comedies if you will for from it.
Speaker C:So good choice, Alec.
Speaker C:Good choice.
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Speaker C:And why don't you tell everybody where they can find us, my friend?
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