Independence Day (1996)
JJ and Alec's discussion centers around the cinematic phenomenon of "Independence Day," released on July 3, 1996, a film that serves as a quintessential representation of summer blockbusters. We delve into the intricate dynamics of its narrative structure, particularly emphasizing the film's compelling first act, which establishes a palpable tension and sets the stage for the ensuing alien invasion. However, we identify a significant detriment in the film's pacing, particularly within the second act, where the narrative's focus appears disjointed and meandering, detracting from the overall experience. The contrasting performances of the ensemble cast, including notable contributions from Will Smith and Jeff Goldblum, provide a rich tapestry of character interactions that elevate the film's comedic elements, yet the writing falters in moments that detract from the intended gravitas of the storyline. Ultimately, we grapple with the film's dichotomy; while it excels in moments of brilliance and nostalgia, it concurrently presents weaknesses that warrant critical examination, leading us to a nuanced evaluation of its merits and flaws.
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The president gets this weird vision and it's like, what the is going on right now?
Speaker B:Like, I've seen this movie.
Speaker B:It's the Lord of the Ring.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:It's like this.
Speaker A:We just got real lazy right here.
Speaker A:Welcome to the what's Already podcast where we fashion ourselves cinematic judge and jury.
Speaker A:My name is J.J.
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Speaker A:Other than him trying to save the world.
Speaker A:He starts lecturing me about recycling, I'm gonna be pissed.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:If you haven't figured it out, we're in week two of June, our summer kickoff movies.
Speaker A:And we're staying really just.
Speaker A:We're just continuing down the line of we're doing it the right way for June.
Speaker A:So far, Independence Day is our next one.
Speaker A: ,: Speaker A:It was written by Dean Devlin and Roland Emmerich.
Speaker A:It was directed by Roland Emmerich, Stars Will Smith, Bill Pullman, Jeff Goldblue, Mary McDonnell, Judd Hirsch, Robert Loggia, Randy Quaid, Margaret Collin, James Rebhorn, and Harvey Fierstein, not to be confused with Harvey, the other one.
Speaker A:There's also Adam Baldwin, Brent Spiner, Vivk Fox.
Speaker A:This is another one that was pretty loaded with people as we, you know, went on.
Speaker A:I mean, even the president's daughter, May Whitman went on to do quite a bit as far as acting and different roles.
Speaker A:So really, really big movie.
Speaker A:This was my pick, so I will.
Speaker B:So tell us about it.
Speaker A:J.J.
Speaker A:this is wild.
Speaker A:So I have a real soft spot for this movie.
Speaker A:And I'll tell you where it came one.
Speaker A:I saw it when it came out.
Speaker A:I was 15.
Speaker A:And at 15, this movie was amazing, right?
Speaker A:Like Will Smith.
Speaker A:Action.
Speaker A:This was it.
Speaker A:Like when he was just like, this was probably the movie besides Bad Boys, right?
Speaker A:So the original Bad Boys kicked him off as a movie star.
Speaker A:He had the Fresh Prince going on at the time, so he was still killing it there.
Speaker A:But this movie, like, took him to that notch of, like, ridiculous, right?
Speaker A:And I remember when it came out like he.
Speaker A:He was funny.
Speaker A:I love Bill Pullman.
Speaker A:I love Randy Quaid.
Speaker A:He's hilarious.
Speaker A:There's just a lot of people in this movie.
Speaker A:Jeff Goldblum, he had recently just got off of Jurassic park, so he was doing real well.
Speaker A:There was a lot going on when this movie came out.
Speaker A:But what really gave me a soft spot is so I moved to Kentucky from.
Speaker A: oved from Kentucky to Utah in: Speaker A:And the school that I went to from Kentucky, I went to Davis High School here in Utah.
Speaker A:And Davis High School is always one of the things they were known for, at least back then.
Speaker A:I don't know anymore because I haven't paid attention.
Speaker A:But was their marching band.
Speaker A:Well, I was a marching band nerd.
Speaker A:And it was tough because I couldn't play football because I injured my back.
Speaker A:And in Utah, like, you couldn't do both.
Speaker A:So when I was in Kentucky, I was in band and I played football.
Speaker A:And they.
Speaker A:That was cool.
Speaker A:Everybody, like the football players love the band.
Speaker A:Like in Kentucky, like, it was a big deal.
Speaker A:I came out to Utah and Utah's band, like Davis size band was really good.
Speaker A:Like they were.
Speaker A:They won competitions.
Speaker A:They were usually top three in all the competitions against a couple of other band.
Speaker A:Like, we were really good.
Speaker A:But I couldn't play football.
Speaker A:Even if I could had an injured my back, I wouldn't be able to play football.
Speaker A:Because you had to do football.
Speaker A:Utah's really weird.
Speaker A:Like these was like your extracurriculars actually had classroom time as well.
Speaker A:So, like, I couldn't play football and do band.
Speaker A:It was really odd.
Speaker A:They just didn't let you do it.
Speaker A:So I chose band because of my back.
Speaker A:And so I say all that to say we did a year after it came out, our band program for that year, the marching band program at Davis was Independence Day.
Speaker A:And I got super stoked.
Speaker A:So I was really pissed about moving to Utah when I was 16 years old.
Speaker A:But then I got, you know, I was like, I'm gonna be going to this high school.
Speaker A:We get this, you know, here's the music.
Speaker A:We're playing this.
Speaker A:They sent me all the music I needed and stuff to practice.
Speaker A:And I was like, I love Independence Day, though.
Speaker A:And I'll say, Independence Day has a phenomenal score.
Speaker A:So if you ever want to, like, if you like listening to music, movie scores, and this one's great.
Speaker A:But because I played it for six months that year in 97, it always stuck with me as a great movie.
Speaker A:And so, like, I.
Speaker A:We Watched it all the time when I was younger and in high school and then growing up, and it's one of those movies that, no matter what, I really like it now.
Speaker A:I listened to another podcast that helped me.
Speaker A:Want to do a podcast?
Speaker A:And they.
Speaker A:All over Independence Day, I was like, what?
Speaker A:How the dare you.
Speaker A:This is a classic.
Speaker A:Then I went back and watched it.
Speaker A: t's a little different now in: Speaker A:But, yeah.
Speaker A:What were your first impressions out?
Speaker A:Because, again, you were.
Speaker A:You were little.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So, like, the first time I saw this, it was, like, replaying on TBS or something.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And I was probably 10 or 11, and so.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And it's a weird kind of enigma.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Because for the time that came out, you.
Speaker B:You almost have to go look for movies that are like this.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And nothing ever seems to fit right into the vein of what they did with this.
Speaker B:So it's very unique.
Speaker B:Even to this day, you're searching for almost that same kind of feeling with the movie, same kind of plot twist, and it's.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:Nothing ever really quite gets it right.
Speaker B:So it's.
Speaker B:It's kind of got this cool niche that it's stuck in.
Speaker B:And, like, I'll be honest, first, like, if you talk about movies being broken up into, like, three acts.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:The first act of this film is, bar none, amazing.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker B:I will sit there and tell you that you are wrong about everything if you disagree.
Speaker B:Third act is okay.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's right up there.
Speaker B:It's kind of middle.
Speaker B:It's the fact that the first act is so good, carries through the third act.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:The second act shouldn't be there.
Speaker B:It is.
Speaker B:It should not exist.
Speaker B:It is terrible.
Speaker B:And I think the problem is you have this great first act.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:That takes half the movie.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker B:But it's such a good job.
Speaker B:And you should skip anything to do with figuring out stuff about the aliens.
Speaker B:And you should cut straight to Jeff Goldblums and.
Speaker B:And Will Smith going up into.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, there's.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:Because the second act's, like, 30 minutes long.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Maybe.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:It's probably closer to 20.
Speaker B:And it ruins the.
Speaker B:Really just about everything that there's no defending it.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:It's just.
Speaker B:It's stupid.
Speaker B:But you can.
Speaker B:You can see the process that they're going to and saying, oh, we need a reason for, you know, figuring out this.
Speaker B:So we're gonna throw in Area 51 stuff and we're gonna throw in an alien, and we're gonna, you know, kind of do this whole weird thing that just doesn't belong.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because you.
Speaker B:You don't.
Speaker B:It's unnecessary.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker B:The cards have already been dealt in the first act where, you know, it's a struggle against.
Speaker B:You know, it's a struggle for humanity, essentially, what you're up against.
Speaker B:And then, so.
Speaker B:Because that second act is so.
Speaker B:So trash, like, you get to the third act, and you're almost like, now you're just nitpicking stuff.
Speaker B:And so you have this.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:And then they throw in a little bit as well where they're not doing themselves any favors.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Because you have this amazing speech by Bill Paul.
Speaker B:So good.
Speaker B:But they ruin it with certain parts that they throw in there.
Speaker B:And so, like, overall, it's great.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:Like the first, you know, 30, 45 seconds of the speech, it's like chills and goosebumps, and you're like, yeah, let's go.
Speaker B:And then they.
Speaker B:They throw in a couple things that, like, you're like, oh, I didn't really need that.
Speaker B:Didn't need that.
Speaker B:Or that doesn't make much sense.
Speaker B:Or, you know, all this stuff, you're like, oh.
Speaker B:But if.
Speaker B:If they don't give you time to kind of think about that.
Speaker B:Because as they just continuously ramp it up.
Speaker B:Because this is one of those movies where you should just start and ramp up to the end.
Speaker B:Like, we don't need any pullback to establish character and like that there.
Speaker B:You shouldn't have any character development in here.
Speaker B:You should have stagnant characters that just fill a role.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And because the entire movie, you know, it's two days, three days.
Speaker A:Yeah, three days, Fourth of July.
Speaker B:Like, there's no time for character development.
Speaker B:So I don't need any kind of, oh, big sweeping change or, you know, setting stuff up that doesn't make any sense later on.
Speaker B:Like, you're building almost emotional attachments or connections to people that are on screen for three minutes because they get blasted out of the air by aliens.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's like.
Speaker B:So it's.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's interesting because it's in its own nation.
Speaker B:It's first part of it.
Speaker B:So amazing.
Speaker B:I love the beginning of this.
Speaker B:In the end is really good.
Speaker B:It's got some problems, but it's really good.
Speaker B:And that just sucks.
Speaker A:And it's.
Speaker B:It's unfortunate because it's.
Speaker B:It's on the, like, that cusp of being just amazing.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:It just almost tries to do too much and just falls flat right there in the middle.
Speaker B:Right about hour and 35 minutes in.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:I love that you said it because, like, that's such a good way to lay that out about, like, what's good and what's bad.
Speaker A:Because I.
Speaker A:Like, after I heard this other podcast just completely on.
Speaker A:I was like, now I gotta go watch it, because now I feel like I'm an idiot, because I love that movie.
Speaker A:And to your point, you're not.
Speaker A:You're so on point.
Speaker A:Like, the beginning.
Speaker A:God, it's like the first 45 minutes of this movie is some of the greatest setup tension.
Speaker A:Seriously, the tension and the visuals of, like, when they first.
Speaker A:When it's like they're.
Speaker A:Everybody's scrambling because these clouds are coming over, you know?
Speaker A:And then all of a sudden, you have that moment where you see the fire with the plane, and then it's just alien ship, and you're like, oh.
Speaker A:And it's so big.
Speaker A:And like this goofy moment of Will Smith going out to get the newspaper, the mail, and he kicks the thing, and then he.
Speaker A:He's looking at the neighbors like, what the.
Speaker A:And then he looks up and he's like, oh, right.
Speaker A:Like that.
Speaker A:It's just such a perfect way to, like, have some comedy.
Speaker A:And then yet that you're like, this is not good.
Speaker A:Like, and then you have these weird people and you have all these different scenes because it's one of these movies that jumps around a lot.
Speaker A:And normally I hate that, but it works really well with this movie.
Speaker A:You jump to the strip club after every.
Speaker A:And it's empty.
Speaker A:And yet the dude's still making them dance.
Speaker A:And then the girl's gonna go up to the rooftop.
Speaker A:And then you jump to the Air Force base, and they're prepping for their.
Speaker A:And getting debriefed.
Speaker A:And then you jump to the White House, and they're doing their thing.
Speaker A:And you got Jeff Goldblum and his dad, who's one of the funniest freaking.
Speaker A:Those two on this movie are just phenomenal.
Speaker A:And then you have the.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:But it just keeps bouncing.
Speaker A:But the bouncing works because you're like.
Speaker A:It keeps you on your toes.
Speaker A:You're like, no, no, no, no, don't leave.
Speaker A:I want to see what they're gonna do here.
Speaker A:They're like, what the.
Speaker A:Stop it.
Speaker A:I want to see.
Speaker A:And so all I want to do is see more of what's happening, but they're moving me to different places.
Speaker A:And then it all culminates in this unbelievable sequence of these ships just wiping out major cities.
Speaker A:Huge iconic landmarks of our country.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:Which leads me to like, look, I love this movie.
Speaker A:I still love this movie.
Speaker A:But Roland Emmerich drives me crazy because it's like the only thing he wants to do is destroy famous.
Speaker A:And I'm like, you gotta have a little more substance, dude.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And this movie is probably the most substantive movie that he has, with the exception of the one that followed it, being the Day After Tomorrow, I think, a few years later, which is an okay movie, but it's carried by its cast.
Speaker A:But the movie itself is really bad.
Speaker A:Just like, there's a lot of really shitty things, just like in this one.
Speaker A:But in this movie, it works, right?
Speaker A:Like, because you're jumping, you see the White House, you see New York, you see all these places that just get obliterated, and you're like, oh.
Speaker A:And then to.
Speaker A:To your point, they even have this cool moment where they take the ship that, you know, the airplane, the jets up and they're attacking it.
Speaker A:Then that's tense.
Speaker A:Then you have this moment.
Speaker A:Moment that when I was a kid, I thought was great.
Speaker A:When he punches the alien as a human, I'm like, get the out of here.
Speaker A:He just crashed his ship.
Speaker A:And you're punching the mouth of his exoskeleton.
Speaker A:Knocked his ass out cold for biomechanical suit hours.
Speaker A:Long enough to drag him across the desert, load him in a truck, and drive him miles away to a base.
Speaker A:Dude, you don't knock anything out that long with a punch.
Speaker A:And so I was like.
Speaker A:And then it just gets weird, right?
Speaker A:And to your point, up until we get back to Bill Pullman's speech as the President, everything in there just doesn't have the same, I need to know what's going on.
Speaker A:Feeling like I don't get.
Speaker A:I'm like, okay, can we move on to where more action is?
Speaker A:Like, this movie needed just to be a hundred percent action after the destruction of the cities and stuff.
Speaker A:Like, it just needs to be, go, go, go, go, go.
Speaker A:And we get all this, like, dissemination of information that I just don't care about.
Speaker A:And you get this ridiculous scene where the aliens using the doctor's voice to talk and the president gets this weird vision.
Speaker A:And it's like, what the is going on right now?
Speaker B:Like, I've seen this movie.
Speaker B:It's the Lord of the Rings.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, it's like this.
Speaker A:We just got real lazy right here.
Speaker A:Like, the writing gets super disjointed and lazy with all this exposition that just is unnecessary.
Speaker A:Like, I don't care why the aliens are there.
Speaker A:We just watch them destroy half of the planet.
Speaker A:I don't give a what their reasoning is.
Speaker A:We need to destroy them and we need to figure out how to destroy.
Speaker A:So why are we asking can we have peace versus how do we kill your asses?
Speaker A:Because.
Speaker A:And then you get this great moment where he's like.
Speaker A:Where Adam Baldwin's like, is that glass proof?
Speaker A:No, it isn't.
Speaker A:You know, and they start unloading on this thing.
Speaker A:It's like, there you go.
Speaker A:Should have done that to begin with.
Speaker A:Because you don't know other than the fact that they're going to destroy you, which you should have known by now already.
Speaker A:They just, they 30 plus ships came in and just waxed the world.
Speaker A:What do you think they're gonna do?
Speaker B:Leave off.
Speaker A:So, yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker A:It sucks.
Speaker B:The, the problem is that they.
Speaker B:You had the setup for it, right?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like, because you have in the background with all this other stuff that's going on right in the background, talks about moving to new cities, right?
Speaker B:So these ships start out at LA, DC, NY, big cities, and then they move to new ones.
Speaker B:So you have the opportunity to keep this action going as it's almost like, you know, the world is losing ground, right?
Speaker B:Moscow's gone, Dell is gone, right?
Speaker B:All these cities across the world, Berlin or whatever, they go.
Speaker B:And so now you can almost have this, almost retreat, fall back position type of a thing going on where it's losing ground, losing ground, losing ground until you, you know, get to Area 51, get to the alien tech, let Jeff Goldblum work his magic, and then from there you can, you know, finish off the act, but you have it almost be this, you know, breakdown and you, you have it.
Speaker B:It's already set up for that.
Speaker B:But instead we get stuff where now I'm just sitting there picking it apart because in addition to punching aliens, I'm like, where in the is Will Smith going?
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker B:The President of the United States doesn't know about Area 51, but you're telling me Marine Corps Captain Steve Hiller knows where to go with an alien?
Speaker A:Well, he saw it while he was flying over, getting attacked by an alien ship.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:Out of here.
Speaker B:Oh, so he knows where you're going.
Speaker B:Like now I'm sitting there picking this apart because it's just not well done.
Speaker B:When you had the opportunity and you have the setup and you could throw in there, you know that the.
Speaker B:Was it the Black Knights that their squad name that, you know, they're maybe they're the best Right.
Speaker B:So you have these different squads that could go up and you, you know, just keep losing, losing, losing.
Speaker B:Can't figure it out until you have this kind of, you know, ramp up to the finish.
Speaker B:But instead we get all these pieces where it's like, oh, yeah, I saw their plan.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, the plan is kill us all.
Speaker B:That made it pretty clear 35 minutes ago.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so then I'm just making fun of it.
Speaker B:And so then by the time we get to this amazing Bill Pullman speech, I'm also sitting there going like.
Speaker B:Like I said, first part's like, oh.
Speaker B:But anything that doesn't fit into that, I'm like.
Speaker B:And so it pulls me out of it because it didn't do a good job of continuing what it should have been, which is straight action, kind of lost cause, hopeless thing until, you know, we figure out, oh, hey, we could communicate with Morse code.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:They can track this.
Speaker B:We can use.
Speaker B:We don't have to use our satellites necessarily.
Speaker B:We use this and technology.
Speaker B:And then from there, oh, hey, we're able to, you know, we have a program where this is figured out how to crack the code.
Speaker B:Maybe he can do something with that instead of, you know, just.
Speaker B:I didn't need the alien part because it doesn't contribute anything.
Speaker B:Yeah, we figure out about the aliens that they wear these, you know, exoskeleton suits, but inside you can shoot them.
Speaker B:Yeah, Well, I mean, it doesn't serve any purpose because there's no storming of the mothership.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Or there's no.
Speaker B:There's no actual hand to hand combat.
Speaker B:It's all aerial, which they got shield.
Speaker B:So it doesn't matter if you can shoot them behind the wall that you can't shoot through.
Speaker A:Yeah, no, I'm with you.
Speaker B:So it's, It's.
Speaker B:It's a hard one because it's so good.
Speaker B:It's set up for great greatness.
Speaker B:And there's parts of it that I'm just like, oh, yeah, so good.
Speaker B:It's amazing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then this person was like, oh, you guys took the day off in terms of writing, so someone should watch what the interns were doing because they swapped out some pages here.
Speaker B:Yeah, the script.
Speaker A:You guys had this amazing story and then you went, how do we get from the beginning to the end?
Speaker B:You gotta make this, you know, pull back.
Speaker B:We gotta have this interaction between, you know, first contact type of a thing.
Speaker A:Yeah, we got it.
Speaker A:And the whole Area 51 thing.
Speaker A:Like, I wouldn't.
Speaker A:I'd have a less of a hard Time with it.
Speaker A:If I didn't already know that Area 51's been around forever and people have known about it forever.
Speaker A:It's, it's, it's, it's not because like, well, it's not on the map.
Speaker A:Oh, it's there.
Speaker A:Get the out of here.
Speaker A:It is on the map.
Speaker A:Like they haven't been hiding it ever.
Speaker A:It's what goes on at Area 51 that people speculate.
Speaker A:It's not that they didn't know about this base.
Speaker A:They've known that base has been there for a long ass time and we've known about it.
Speaker A:So why are we acting like the government's trying to hide it?
Speaker A:Like, stop it.
Speaker A:It'd be on the map.
Speaker A:They just wouldn't let you in because I don't know, it's a military base.
Speaker A:It's just so.
Speaker A:Well, and then the dude rolls up and he's in the back of the truck and you can clearly tell he's military.
Speaker A:I promise you too.
Speaker A:Within that military outfit is his id.
Speaker A:His military id, which then would allow him to get on base, period.
Speaker A:I know I live a stone's throw from one and I know what it takes to get on one.
Speaker A:So it's like, why?
Speaker A:And then he's got to show the alien, like all dramatic and I'm like, get the.
Speaker B:That's my appearance.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'm like, dude, you've gotta.
Speaker A:I guarantee your military IDs in your back pocket and.
Speaker A:Or in one of those pockets.
Speaker A:It just.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's somewhere.
Speaker A:Yeah, and that's the part that like, I look, I know it's a movie about aliens, so don't at me because I've got suspension of disbelief.
Speaker A:I love Alien movies and I'm very good at my.
Speaker A:I'm not Matson.
Speaker A:I'm very good at suspension of disbelief.
Speaker A:What I'm not good at is when you waste my suspension of disbelief and you make things just stupid.
Speaker A:And that's where I get like.
Speaker A:It's just, look, it's a funny line, but I could have been at a barbecue.
Speaker A:Like, it's funny.
Speaker A:I last.
Speaker A:I laughed at it yesterday when I watched it.
Speaker A:But that whole sequence is really bad because I'm sitting there going, this the wrong with these aliens.
Speaker A:Why?
Speaker A:What's the point of the.
Speaker A:And then it gets worse when I find out about the exoskeleton and I think about that for you to get some sort of military exoskeleton that's supposed to protect your fragile ass that's in the middle of It.
Speaker A:Why can it get punched in the face and knock you out?
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker B:Or cut with the scalpel?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:What kind of exoskeleton is that?
Speaker A:Like, that's weak sauce.
Speaker A:Like, man.
Speaker A:Anyway, I.
Speaker A:It just.
Speaker A:Like, there's so many things that I'm like, suspension of disbelief doesn't work because it's just stupid.
Speaker A:There's a point where I'm going, I have to suspend disbelief because it's like sci fi and we just don't know what's possible.
Speaker A:But when I look at it and go, that's just dumb.
Speaker A:Like, that's not sci fi.
Speaker A:That's not.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:You're asking me to be stupid.
Speaker A:And I have a hard time doing that.
Speaker A:So as a kid, I didn't have a hard time doing that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I thought it was funny, but as an adult, that's really bad.
Speaker A:Still funny, but it's bad.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:And so one thing I will say, so I enjoy the humor in this.
Speaker B:The humor is really good.
Speaker B:And I think they do a great job with the relationship.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Between different characters.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So Jeff Goldblum, Judd Hirsch.
Speaker B:Oh, amazing.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Pair those two up more often that should.
Speaker B:Jeff Goldblum will slip.
Speaker B:Never thought it would happen.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:But then even you've got.
Speaker B:Even though it's not really meant to be humor and comedy, it plays that way.
Speaker B:You've got Will Smith and the girl plays Jasmine.
Speaker B:I don't know her name.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:Vivkay Fox.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So you have.
Speaker B:You have that.
Speaker B:My favorite line this entire movie is where he's getting ready to go back to El Toro, and she's like, but you're on leave.
Speaker B:Like, there's not a alien spaceship outside.
Speaker B:And I'm sitting there going, my wife would do that.
Speaker B:Oh, she would do that.
Speaker B:You're on vacation.
Speaker B:It got canceled the second those aliens showed up.
Speaker A:Well, I love too.
Speaker A:He's like, what's the problem?
Speaker A:What's the problem?
Speaker A:Or what's the problem?
Speaker A:That's my.
Speaker A:She opens the window and just.
Speaker A:It's so good.
Speaker A:Well, I love it too.
Speaker A:Like, that whole interaction.
Speaker A:Because when he gets.
Speaker A:Like, we come over and, you know, I have to cancel all my girls coming over, whatnot, like, because it's so stupid.
Speaker A:She's like, your big old Dumbo ears.
Speaker A:And he's like, your little chicken legs.
Speaker A:Like, it's all with this alien spaceship over their heads.
Speaker A:Like, I love those moments.
Speaker A:They.
Speaker A:Yes, you're right.
Speaker A:The pairings that they have in the interactions.
Speaker A:So great.
Speaker B:Gold.
Speaker B:Absolutely gold.
Speaker B:And it's.
Speaker B:It's great when you have like those conflicting styles is why I think it works so well.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Because you have.
Speaker B:Jeff Goldblum and Will Smith are phenomenal together.
Speaker B:And it's great because there are two very conflicting styles.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:But it plays so well.
Speaker B:And even the dialogue matches up to where Will Smith's like, we have got to work on our communication back and forth.
Speaker B:Like, oops.
Speaker B:You know, the oops joke that goes back.
Speaker B:It's just beautiful because it plays into this differing style, not being able to communicate almost.
Speaker B:And it's like, okay, like that.
Speaker B:That was clever.
Speaker B:Like, I enjoy that.
Speaker B:And so that is almost a little bit of like where I think they should have turned more into.
Speaker B:If they're gonna slow it down and skip the action is into this comedic pairings that they have because they're.
Speaker B:They play so well and you have so much content that you could pull from that and you could almost just flip maybe a little bit of the action with the comedy so you can stop the action going in the background telling your story and.
Speaker B:But just cut everything with the aliens out of it.
Speaker B:We've talked about this before.
Speaker B:If you have a big bad evil guy or big bad evil something, the less we see, the better.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Especially in a movie that came out in the 90s where you have CGI still kind of relatively new up and coming.
Speaker B:And the less you show, the better it is.
Speaker B:Because now it's.
Speaker B:You got your mind going like, what are they?
Speaker B:What are they?
Speaker B:Type of a thing you can show.
Speaker B:You can even show the dead ones that they recovered in the 50s or whatever.
Speaker B:But keep guessing of like, hey, we don't actually know much about them because now it becomes a little bit more like, you have Jeff Goldblum coming to save the day.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Because what we got from the scientists who've decided these scenes for 50 years is, yeah, we know they can be killed.
Speaker B:Yeah, that was like it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like, we know they're fragile and they breathe oxygen.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So nothing.
Speaker B:Nothing of importance.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Nothing that's going to help us survive this.
Speaker B:And you've had 50 years, so it's like, I don't need that.
Speaker B:It's not useful.
Speaker B:So you can save that.
Speaker B:Cut that out.
Speaker B:Throw it away.
Speaker B:And now it's very simple.
Speaker B:Like, hey, we know nothing about them.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's what we've got.
Speaker B:We can't figure it out.
Speaker B:And now you have Jeff Goldblum come in and kind of try it a different approach that haven't tried before or whatever and stumble upon it.
Speaker B:And now you have that kind of tie way in because, I mean, it's almost like you.
Speaker B:You set up for this alien reveal or this alien shindig, and then you don't do anything with it.
Speaker B:It's now you just giving me alien blue balls.
Speaker A:Yeah, well, that's the thing is you don't gain anything from that whole conversation and interaction.
Speaker A:Like, you just not anything that we didn't already know.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Like we know they're trying to destroy you.
Speaker A:Why do we have to have this whole conversation and this 15 minute waste of my time that I don't enjoy when I could have had.
Speaker A:Look, we don't know, except that we can kill them and we got to figure out how to get their shields down and then take me to more of like Vivica Fox character saving the President's wife.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Like, and because those.
Speaker A:I want to know more about that because it directly relates to something that I can.
Speaker A:I can connect with that.
Speaker A:That really.
Speaker A:I love that character because she was funny in the beginning and she made me laugh.
Speaker A:But you know that there's a serious relationship there.
Speaker A:She thinks he's dead.
Speaker A:He thinks she might be dead.
Speaker A:That whole dramatic thing.
Speaker A:And I love the conversations she has with the first lady.
Speaker A:Like, that shit's kind of funny.
Speaker A:I voted for the other guy.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's great.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And like the kids greatly.
Speaker A:So you had what you needed and you make it short.
Speaker A:It doesn't need to be a two hour, 20 minute movie.
Speaker A:You could just cut some shit and we'd still like it.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:Like, it's.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'm just with you.
Speaker A:Like, I think they tried too hard to give everything that they thought they needed, but they didn't need it.
Speaker A:Like, they had enough with what they did in the beginning and the action and the comedy and the interactions.
Speaker A:Like, I don't need them.
Speaker A:The motivation from the aliens.
Speaker A:Like, I just need Bill Pullman as President and doing a great speech from a little microphone that's like iconic.
Speaker A:I memorized it at one point.
Speaker A:I don't know it anymore.
Speaker A:But when we did the band thing, something that's unheard of is non music stuff.
Speaker A:But we had one of our.
Speaker A:While the music's playing the same music that's going on when it gets crescendos and it's really pretty.
Speaker A:One of our.
Speaker A:One of our drum majors went.
Speaker A:We had this big thing in the middle of it after that, like, so we had this section where you're playing the.
Speaker A:It was really cool, actually.
Speaker A:You can watch it on.
Speaker A:I have to send you the video?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So there's this part where the music gets the part where, like, all the aliens are attacking, the ships are attacking, right?
Speaker A:We had this thing in the middle and in the middle and then it, like, crush and go down.
Speaker A:And we had it.
Speaker A:And all of us would lay down and pose like we got.
Speaker A:We were part of the destruction or whatnot.
Speaker A:And then we get up and it's this.
Speaker A:I'm getting goosebumps thinking about it.
Speaker A:That's how cool this was.
Speaker A:Then we all get up.
Speaker A:Like, there's this trumpet solo going on during.
Speaker A:For the speech.
Speaker A:And then all of us get up, we put our instruments back on, and we start marching again.
Speaker A:And our drum major did the speech with a microphone while we were.
Speaker A:Dude, it was dope.
Speaker B:That is cool.
Speaker A:And I got goosebumps every time.
Speaker A:Like, it was such a cool show.
Speaker A:We never took first place because there's this band in America, American Fork, that technically was better than us that doing the band.
Speaker A:So they always took first place, but we always took second.
Speaker A:But I'll tell you right now, the fan favorite was us, because people would.
Speaker A:It was a year ago, the movie had come out, and it's just got you worked up because, you know, we had all the great music and the speech, and it was just great.
Speaker A:So the movie did some very correctly.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And that's the part where I get, as an adult re watching it.
Speaker A:Like, I get really frustrated at the parts that they didn't do very correctly because it's so good when it's good and it's.
Speaker A:But it's really bad when it's bad.
Speaker A:And so it's.
Speaker A:It's tough for me.
Speaker A:But I will say that this will always be one of my favorite movies because of my interaction with it, with the band stuff.
Speaker A:And I think it was peak.
Speaker A:Will Smith.
Speaker A:It was peak.
Speaker A:Vivica A.
Speaker A:Fox.
Speaker A:It was peak.
Speaker A:Jeff Goldblum, though, he still does his thing just as good as he ever did, you know, I mean, Bill Pullman, like, now.
Speaker A:Which is crazy because now his kid's getting famous.
Speaker A:His kid was.
Speaker A:Is in the.
Speaker A:The Thunderbolts movie as the century and he kills it.
Speaker A:He does a great job.
Speaker A:And he looks just like his dad.
Speaker A:I was like, anyways, I mean, it's just, like, great.
Speaker A:Like, this is such a good cast with just poor writing it sometimes.
Speaker A:And then some great writing.
Speaker A:I mean, the opening scene of this movie is phenomenal too.
Speaker A:Like, the people up at this weird station freaking out.
Speaker A:Like, I love the part where he calls the guy, puts the Phone up to it.
Speaker A:And he hits his head on the bunk bed.
Speaker A:Then he's tripping over golf balls because he's freaking the.
Speaker A:He's like, why the is this here?
Speaker A:Like, I'm gonna follow my ass.
Speaker A:And you get the.
Speaker A:The great.
Speaker A:When it's the end of the world playing in the back.
Speaker A:It's just such good writing.
Speaker A:And then it moves in a great clip.
Speaker A:We go to the president.
Speaker A:We go to the.
Speaker A:The newsroom.
Speaker A:I love that guy too, with the rats.
Speaker A:Graspy voice.
Speaker A:I gotta call my lawyer.
Speaker A:The poor bastards in the.
Speaker B:Oh, crap.
Speaker B:For 300 an hour.
Speaker B:You can put me through his house in the Hamptons.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Love that guy.
Speaker A:Oh, mom, you gotta go to get in the car and go.
Speaker A:He's laying under the desk.
Speaker A:So good.
Speaker A:Such a good.
Speaker A:Good.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:The characters are amazing.
Speaker B:And it, like you said, it moves at a very nice clip.
Speaker B:And then when they slow it until it doesn't.
Speaker B:Like, I mean, when they slow it down.
Speaker A:She's trash.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so it's.
Speaker B:That's the unfortunate bit is like right in the middle between two really good parts.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Is where you have just like.
Speaker B:And so for me, that makes the ending worse because I've sat through the.
Speaker B:The trash and so now I'm almost looking for stuff.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:To be nitpicky about this.
Speaker B:But yeah, like, if you're talking just an hour and a half long and end it.
Speaker B:End it after they blow up stuff.
Speaker B:Dude.
Speaker A:Oh, so good.
Speaker B:I'm about it.
Speaker B:Because it's so good.
Speaker B:Right off the bat.
Speaker A:So good.
Speaker A:I liked Randy Quaid too.
Speaker A:That shit.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:You did the wrong field.
Speaker A:Are you sure?
Speaker A:So good.
Speaker A:He's cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs, but it works.
Speaker A:The only thing that bothers me about his character is at the end when he's, like, absolutely belligerent drunk.
Speaker A:And then like a couple of cups of coffee and he's ready to fly it at 14.
Speaker A:I'm like, hold on.
Speaker A:Coming from someone that has had a lot of moments where I'm ripped out of my gourd.
Speaker A:A couple of coffees aren't going to get me even driving a car, let alone flying a fighter jet.
Speaker B:Well, then it also kind of ruins one of the greatest lines of the movies, which is, I picked a hell of a day to quit drinking.
Speaker B:Like, dude, you quit like two hours ago.
Speaker B:What do you mean?
Speaker A:Yeah, keep them coming.
Speaker A:Keep them coming.
Speaker B:Dude.
Speaker A:It's not gonna make it better.
Speaker A:I swear to God.
Speaker A:It's not.
Speaker A:Like, maybe tomorrow in 12 hours, you could be flying some.
Speaker A:But you're not doing it now.
Speaker A:Like, it's crazy.
Speaker A:I mean, it makes for funny, but again, like, it's just so unrealistic.
Speaker A:Like, and then, like, the.
Speaker A:The other one that really bothers me is, like, the him being drunk and goofy, flipping that switch on the missile.
Speaker A:And that is what sets up, like, his need to fly into the ship.
Speaker A:Like, just have him run out of missiles.
Speaker A:Like, we all know it's gonna it up.
Speaker A:Like, I could see that coming from even when I was a kid.
Speaker A:I'm like, oh, that's not gonna work later.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, just have him run out and then he makes that choice.
Speaker A:Like, don't force him to make that choice because he's an idiot.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker A:Force him to make that choice because it's to save the world and his kids.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:Like, that to me, resonates more than, oops, I was drunk or sobering up and hit the button, and now the missile doesn't work.
Speaker A:So now I have to fly into this ship and sacrifice it just kind of takes away from the nobility of that decision.
Speaker A:And I know that's petty, but it does for me.
Speaker A:Like, as an adult, I'm like, that could have been avoided and you could have made it a decision.
Speaker A:Because it's a hard decision to make.
Speaker A:And then the impact is there.
Speaker A:It's not.
Speaker A:Well, I.
Speaker A:I up and pushed a button because I'd been drinking and just make him be noble and have that decision because he has to, not because, whoops, I up.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker B:Yeah, no, I get what you're saying, because again, right, because that second part of the movie is so bad.
Speaker B:But then you also have this really cool scene, right?
Speaker B:Where they're all like.
Speaker B:Where he's like, I still got one.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker B:So they're like, oh, flank out.
Speaker B:Like you're covering them.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:Yeah, a little like, attack, wean or hear the road.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So you have this really cool sequence, but I think if you did something like, you know, because this is their last missile, right?
Speaker B:So it's like, hey, you gotta get close because we've already missed a couple.
Speaker B:You know, this is.
Speaker B:This is X Wing flying down the trench of the Death Star.
Speaker B:That's right.
Speaker B:You're aiming for a whomp rat.
Speaker B:You got to get close to make sure this thing works.
Speaker B:And so then just have him get maybe too close, right?
Speaker B:Or whatever is.
Speaker B:Or he realizes, hey, I can't mess this up, so I'm just gonna go for it.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker B:Type of a thing.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:Because then that adds to It.
Speaker B:And instead of having, like, you were talking about, like, oh, whoopsies.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And not getting it checked out late before you go.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:There's.
Speaker B:There's so many things where it's.
Speaker A:You're.
Speaker B:You're trying to work it too hard and still have this noble kind of sacrifice.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And you.
Speaker B:You don't need it.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:You.
Speaker B:You can inform your way where it's like, hey, we got to get close.
Speaker B:You know, I.
Speaker B:I gotta go up there.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Like, I gotta get out there.
Speaker B:I gotta make it work.
Speaker B:Because this is.
Speaker B:We're down to our last missile.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:There's.
Speaker B:There's no other option here, type of.
Speaker B:Because that.
Speaker B:That's the desperate straits that they're in.
Speaker B:They're in dire straits.
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker B:But for me, anyway, it's.
Speaker B:It's because it follows after the middle part, I'm gonna say.
Speaker B:Now I'm gonna be nitpicky about.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, it is what it is.
Speaker A:The movie does it to itself.
Speaker A:So I agree with you completely.
Speaker A:But there's so many opportunities I think this movie could have been.
Speaker A:And again, as a kid, it was absolutely amazing because I didn't give a.
Speaker A:Now, from that perspective and.
Speaker A:And hearing that podcast.
Speaker A:And then, like you said, I come at it from, like, a more critical point of view because of what we do with these.
Speaker A:But, yeah, it's unfortunate because the writing was so good on the front and back end of the damn thing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:There's still, to me, not a movie that creates the level of tension that the first 45 minutes of this movie does up until the first launch of the Black Knights.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Like that.
Speaker A:To me, like, holy.
Speaker A:Because you don't know what's going on.
Speaker A:These ships are huge.
Speaker A:Everybody's either excited or afraid, and they're starting to figure out.
Speaker A:And then you get this, like, moment of.
Speaker A:It's a countdown.
Speaker A:When he figures it out, there's a countdown and he's like, I gotta go to the White House.
Speaker A:You're like, hurry up.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So it just is so good.
Speaker A:So good.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:All right, should we rate it?
Speaker B:Let's do it.
Speaker A:All right, it's mine.
Speaker A:I'll go first.
Speaker A:I really want to score this really high because of the nostalgia and the.
Speaker A:Love it as a kid.
Speaker A:But I'm going to be realistic.
Speaker A:I'm going to give it a three and a half.
Speaker A:I think it had the potential to be a five, and I want to give it a four, but I'm going to give it a three and A half.
Speaker A:Because when it's bad, it's really bad.
Speaker A:Like really bad.
Speaker A:Like almost unwatchable bad.
Speaker A:But when it's really good.
Speaker A:Jesus Christ.
Speaker A:It is so compelling and it is so fun and it is so funny and it's so tense and it has great music and it has great dialogue, but man, when it falls off, it falls off into the toilet.
Speaker A:And so I can't forgive that completely and put a four in front of it.
Speaker A:So three and a half.
Speaker A:I'll watch it again.
Speaker A:I do love it.
Speaker A:It's got some great speeches, it's got some great dialogue.
Speaker A:It's fun.
Speaker A:So I will watch it pretty much anytime.
Speaker A:But I will on it when we get to the shitty parts.
Speaker A:Just know that no matter what.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:But I.
Speaker A:I do still enjoy it.
Speaker A:I still have fun watching it.
Speaker A:So I would watch it almost anytime.
Speaker A:And Will Smith just crushes it.
Speaker A:Like, he steals this movie.
Speaker A:For sure.
Speaker A:For sure, for sure.
Speaker A:Him and.
Speaker A:And man, him and.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:What's his face?
Speaker A:Why can't it just lost it.
Speaker B:Jeff Goldblum.
Speaker A:Jeff Goldblum.
Speaker A:Him and Jeff Goldblum are the stars of this movie with like a really great speech from Bill Pullman.
Speaker A:So there it is.
Speaker A:Alec, your turn, buddy.
Speaker B:All right, I'm gonna come a little lower.
Speaker B:I'm gonna give it a three.
Speaker B:And I think this movie, like we talked about, gets in its own way and it's doing too much.
Speaker B:And there's so much going on when you should just stayed with what was working, which is tense, tense action flick.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:This could have been something like a quiet place.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:With the kind of tension that they're building up in the first little bit of this movie.
Speaker B:But because they're trying to do much, there's so much scattered.
Speaker B:Like by the time we get to the first lady dying, like, I.
Speaker B:I'm almost like, okay, take that, let's go.
Speaker B:Like it.
Speaker B:It doesn't have that emotional pull to it because you're.
Speaker B:You're having so many different side stories going on and so many different characters and this or that.
Speaker B:And you almost forget for a While that there's 15 mile wide alien spaceships flying around the world.
Speaker B:Like, you start to forget that because of where the direction they take the movie.
Speaker B:And that should be like forefront coming at you the entire time to keep that level going.
Speaker B:So when you get to this point where it's just.
Speaker B:So much is going on, it loses itself.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so I'm gonna give it a three.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:I will watch it, but frequently I will be skipping about 40 minutes in the middle of it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:To watch the bits that I want to watch.
Speaker B:Because when it's good, it's good.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker B:But yeah, three for me.
Speaker B:I love it.
Speaker A:Love it.
Speaker A:Welcome to Earth.
Speaker A:I always think too, about the, like, yeah, there's just so many one liners that are just so good.
Speaker A:And that's.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's one of the.
Speaker A:Welcome to Earth.
Speaker A:But the rest of it's.
Speaker A:It's so bad when it's bad, but when it's good, boy, it's great.
Speaker A:All right, well, there it is.
Speaker A:Week two, Independence Day of Kick Summer Kickoff movies.
Speaker A:I, you know, glad we watched it.
Speaker A:I do like it.
Speaker A:But then Alec, tell us where they can find us when they're not watching or listening.
Speaker B:Happy to.
Speaker B:So, like JJ said, thank you for tuning in.
Speaker B:This is week two.
Speaker B:We got a great lineup left for summer kickoff movies in June.
Speaker B:No, no more my movies.
Speaker B:I got mine out of the way on the first week and I'm living that JJ life with the dry spell.
Speaker B:But it's, it's a, it's a pretty good lineup coming, so be sure to tune in for that.
Speaker B:Best place to find us, though.
Speaker B:If you want to get involved with podcast creation is check us out on Patreon.
Speaker B:Thank you to Rich and CB for selecting the movies that we're doing this month and for the movies that we've done for really the past 8, 9, 10, 11 years long.
Speaker B:I think we've been doing this is June.
Speaker B:June.
Speaker B:So we started kind of switching it up with our movie votes, I think.
Speaker B:And so we've been doing this for a long time.
Speaker B:It's a great system.
Speaker B:Guys, go join us on Patreon.
Speaker B:What's our verted reviews?
Speaker B:You can get involved without pain, I might add.
Speaker B:No pain.
Speaker B:To get involved with the voting, you can choose topics that, you know, we set out a couple topics, pick which one you want.
Speaker B:That topic will send in some movies.
Speaker B:And it's a, it's a real case of bragging rights for us if our movies get picked.
Speaker B:JJ was over like 27 this year until.
Speaker B:Until this month and he clean sweeped with three of three being chosen.
Speaker B:So it's a real thing with us and, you know, we kind of really pulling for our movies to get picked.
Speaker B:Part of that reason.
Speaker B:A little behind the scenes action for you guys.
Speaker B:Part of that reason is because we will intentionally pick movies that the other two are gonna hate.
Speaker A:It's true.
Speaker B:So get involved there.
Speaker B:Doesn't cost you anything to pick all your favorite movies.
Speaker B:I cut out again.
Speaker B:So this is gonna be great.
Speaker B:I'm gonna go back to the Internet's gonna be good.
Speaker B:I didn't stop.
Speaker B:I knew exactly what was happening because everything cut out so you can get involved on the podcast.
Speaker B:Doesn't cost you anything to get involved.
Speaker B:Vote choose movies that you want to see us do.
Speaker B:We love talking about movies that have been out for decades at this point.
Speaker B:We love going back to some old classics, right?
Speaker B:I mean, we just did two this this month already from the 90s.
Speaker B:So join us there.
Speaker B:It's never going to be a dull time.
Speaker B:There's plenty of behind the scenes content to keep you busy as well.
Speaker B:And with that, I'll kick it back to the fearless leader, the Titan of terror, the Wazir of Wap A.
Speaker B:JJ that's right.
Speaker A:I wouldn't say fearless.
Speaker A:I do have fear when I don't get my movies picked because then I gotta watch you movies and that's a coin flip if I've ever seen one.
Speaker A:So there it is.
Speaker A:But I do like them.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And as always, look, we appreciate you tuning in.
Speaker A:We've had a good time this week.
Speaker A:We'll catch you on the next one.
Speaker B:Hasta la vista, baby.
Speaker A:Cinematic.
