K9 (1989) vs. Turner & Hooch (1989)
Mattson, Alec and JJ delve into the cinematic showdown between the canine-centric films "K9" and "Turner and Hooch," both released in 1989. The primary focus of our discussion revolves around the nuanced performances of the titular dogs and the emotional resonance inherent in their respective narratives. We explore the overtly comical antics of Jerry Lee in "K9," contrasted with the heartfelt journey of Turner and Hooch as they navigate the complexities of human-animal relationships. Our dialogue is enriched by personal anecdotes and a critical examination of comedic elements, leading us to assess the films' merits and shortcomings in terms of humor, action, and emotional depth. Ultimately, we arrive at a consensus on the enduring appeal of these films, each contributing uniquely to the landscape of canine cinema.
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No, yeah, obviously, like, if I look over and I see my dog licking their ass, I'm not like, immediately like, hey, when you're done over there, come on over.
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Speaker A:Yeah, so we're watching.
Speaker A:We're doing K9 versus Turner and Hooch.
Speaker A:1989 twin films.
Speaker A: ,: Speaker A:It was written by Steven Siegel and Scott Myers.
Speaker A:It was directed by Rod Daniel.
Speaker A:Stars Jim Belushi, Mel Harris, Kevin Tig, Ed O'Neill, the dog rando, James Handy and Daniel Davis.
Speaker A:It is about to stop an elusive criminal.
Speaker A:A maverick detective enlists the aid of a police dog who's an unusually intelligent smart alec.
Speaker A: ,: Speaker A:It's was written by Dennis Shirak, Michael Blodgett and Daniel Petri Jr.
Speaker A:It's directed by Roger Spottiswood.
Speaker A:It stars Tom Hanks, Mayor Winningham, Craig T.
Speaker A:Nelson, Reginald Vel Johnson, Scott Pollen.
Speaker A:Where's the dog at anyway?
Speaker A:Don't have him.
Speaker A:Yeah, David Nell, Kevin Scando, and a very young Eldon Hansen.
Speaker A:And so we will jump into this movie that's about a detective that must adopt a rambunctious dog in order to help him find a killer.
Speaker A:So this was my pick.
Speaker A:This pick was easy for me.
Speaker A:Like, I was really excited to do it because these are two of my favorite, like, movies as a kid, like, when I was young, like I was 7 years old when these movies came out.
Speaker A:And I've always been a huge dog lover.
Speaker A:And so for me, these were hilarious.
Speaker A:They were heartwarming, they were funny, they were entertaining.
Speaker A:And, you know, it's just.
Speaker A:I was, like, really excited when we decided to do the arbitration series again.
Speaker A:I was like, this one's been on my list to add to it since we started doing these five years ago.
Speaker A:So, yeah, I was really excited.
Speaker A:I watched both of them in theater when I was a kid.
Speaker A:My mom and dad took me.
Speaker A:We had a lot of fun.
Speaker A:Yeah, I have a lot to talk about with these two, but because they were like, staples of my childhood.
Speaker A:But, yeah, good times.
Speaker A:I was 8 years old when these came out.
Speaker A:What'd you guys think?
Speaker A:Here's the question.
Speaker A:Turner and Hooch is usually the bigger one because it's got Tom Hanks in it, obviously.
Speaker A:And I know Matt said you had seen it because we talked about this before, but I.
Speaker A:You hadn't seen canine, right?
Speaker B:Had.
Speaker B:I'd seen Turner and Hooch only like two to one or two years ago because of Tay.
Speaker B:She loves Turner and Hooch.
Speaker B:I mean, Tay's a huge dog lover.
Speaker B:I love my dog Ko with all my heart.
Speaker B:Mr.
Speaker B:Him, Bubba, Kins, Chubbuckins, Mr.
Speaker B:Ham, Hubbies, Dabra, Wubber, Bubbers.
Speaker B:I could go on.
Speaker B:He's.
Speaker B:He's all kinds of things.
Speaker B:He's not here right now.
Speaker B:Otherw have, he's getting groomed right now.
Speaker B:So, I mean, I love you guys.
Speaker B:Those that listen to us, AKA I'm the man of the people.
Speaker B:So you should know this.
Speaker B:I love Tom Hanks and Tom Hanks and a dog.
Speaker B:It's a pretty great combination.
Speaker B:Like, it's not.
Speaker B:Not a.
Speaker B:Not much to dislike there.
Speaker B:Never had seen K9 and I have told JJ on numerous occasions when we're playing video games.
Speaker B:This is.
Speaker B:I mean, I'm so happy.
Speaker B:I'm so happy.
Speaker B:So happy to have had watched that movie.
Speaker B:As we'll talk about, don't think it's the greatest acted movie, but oh, man, it's funny.
Speaker B:And I was just tickled pink to be able to have watched it.
Speaker A:I love it.
Speaker A:Alec, had you seen either of these movies?
Speaker C:I mean, I was negative four when these movies came out, and negative four, like the first time I saw them both was Carry the one Tuesday.
Speaker A:Tuesday.
Speaker C:Yeah, I'VE never seen either one of these movies before.
Speaker A:I wondered.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:No, not even close.
Speaker C:Never was this anywhere near.
Speaker C:Movies to go watch.
Speaker A:Love it.
Speaker C:So, I mean, thank you, I guess.
Speaker A:You're welcome.
Speaker C:Movies to watch.
Speaker C:I appreciate it.
Speaker A:Some sarcasm in your voice there, my friend.
Speaker C:No, I liked them there.
Speaker C:They were good.
Speaker C:They were good.
Speaker C:They were funny.
Speaker C:There's not necessarily a whole lot of bad about either one.
Speaker C:I will say, though, something like was that I had a problem with Problem.
Speaker C:We'll say problem was with K9.
Speaker C:The fact that they.
Speaker C:I don't know if they added all the dog sounds in or if the dog was just making sounds the entire time, but having the dog act like it's conversing back and forth with Jim Bellus Sushi.
Speaker C:I was like, I've owned a lot of dogs.
Speaker C:Very vocal dogs as well.
Speaker C:And not a single one is that vocal.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:And that's just where we need to stop listening to your opinion.
Speaker B:Because that's one of my favorite things about the movies.
Speaker B:Because they dehumanize the out of that dog.
Speaker C:And oh, he's so dumb.
Speaker B:I loved it.
Speaker B:I love.
Speaker B:Because if you didn't like that, then you hated the hospital scene when the dog's alive and is clearly listening to my man.
Speaker B:What's the main character's name in canine?
Speaker C:Man of the people.
Speaker B:Yeah, whatever his name is.
Speaker B:When he's just going off and apologizing.
Speaker B:Yeah, dually.
Speaker B:And saying how sad he is.
Speaker B:And when the dog, like, looks at him and then goes back, like, looks at him and then goes like, like.
Speaker B:Because it's supposed he thinks he's dead, but the dog's very much alive.
Speaker B:I love those sounds because that endeared me to that dog so dang much.
Speaker B:Jerry Lee had my heart from the beginning.
Speaker B:So we're going to get into what we'll get into our topics.
Speaker B:And that's why people listen to me and not you.
Speaker C:Nobody listens to you.
Speaker A:I love it when you two get going.
Speaker A:Shit's great.
Speaker C:Enough is enough with the dog.
Speaker C:Like, have it a little bit.
Speaker C:But every sing, dude, the dog had half the dialogue in this dude.
Speaker A:I will say this like, you're right.
Speaker A:Most dogs aren't going to communicate that way.
Speaker A:But I have Daisy, my little hound dog that just laid down behind me a few minutes ago.
Speaker A:She and I getting full on conversations now.
Speaker A:I don't know what the she's saying, but I sure know she's boss.
Speaker A:She's just as bossy as Casey.
Speaker A:So, like, it is like she'll tell me, she'll sit down and we'll have a full out conversation.
Speaker A:It's quite funny, but.
Speaker C:Yeah, but it's not constant.
Speaker A:Well, sure, if you're gonna.
Speaker B:Are you gonna.
Speaker B:If you're gonna start rating these movies off of that one.
Speaker B:These movies would never exist like this in these.
Speaker B:They're not realistic.
Speaker B:Like, come on.
Speaker B:Jeez, Alex.
Speaker A:She.
Speaker A:She heard you talk us talking about her.
Speaker A:So now.
Speaker B:Yeah, she felt some type of way.
Speaker A:Yeah, no, I.
Speaker A:Look, yeah, it's not.
Speaker B:It's every day of our co hosts.
Speaker B:How many of us own dogs?
Speaker A:I own three.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Who doesn't own a dog?
Speaker B:Little old man Alec over there.
Speaker B:Shut your trap hole.
Speaker B:We love those.
Speaker B:No, we love those noises when that dog talking every time I felt like.
Speaker C:My point is they're not constant and it drove me nuts.
Speaker A:It's fair.
Speaker A:She and I communicate on a daily basis, but not all day long.
Speaker C:Have you ever yelled at your dog because they're making too much noise?
Speaker C:Matson?
Speaker C:Sure.
Speaker B:Actually him.
Speaker B:Barbara.
Speaker C:Yes, exactly.
Speaker A:I haven't.
Speaker B:That dude.
Speaker B:That dude does not mean if they.
Speaker C:Go and they go and they go and they go.
Speaker C:And most dogs aren't vocal all the time.
Speaker C:They'll have their moments when they want to communicate something to you.
Speaker C:And they have moments where it's endearing and it's fun.
Speaker B:Yeah, but Jerry Lee's not sitting there barking at the door for 30 seconds.
Speaker B:He's going like when Dooley says something smart.
Speaker B:And Jerry's like.
Speaker B:I was like, dang.
Speaker B:That's so freaking funny.
Speaker B:So great.
Speaker B:You know what, Jay?
Speaker B:You can just minimize Alex.
Speaker A:There you go.
Speaker B:Rectangle.
Speaker B:And just mute him all tiny.
Speaker A:I will say German shepherds tend to be very more vocal than most.
Speaker A:Huskies are the most vocal, in my opinion, which I've had two of the silent.
Speaker A:Most silent huskies on the planet.
Speaker A:My.
Speaker A:My hound dog's more talkative than my husky right now, which is odd.
Speaker A:But I love watching YouTube videos with the huskies that just start screaming.
Speaker A:Or there's one that where they're like, okay, it's time to go.
Speaker A:And he's like, literally no.
Speaker A:And like he's a.
Speaker A:And then turns away and everybody starts laughing.
Speaker A:Like I love.
Speaker A:Which I think is why this movie, like those.
Speaker A:Those videos on YouTube, tick tock, wherever you're watching them get some of like, they get billion, millions of hits.
Speaker A:And that's why canine and even Turner and Hertz to a certain degree are so popular.
Speaker A:Like, when people watch them, you can't help but come away.
Speaker A:And I don't care how Debbie Downer you are.
Speaker A:Like you, there's moments that you cannot help but smile at both movies.
Speaker A:And so, yeah, I.
Speaker A:I agree with both of you.
Speaker A:It's one of the most endearing parts.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker B:All right, let's get into this, because Alex's gonna piss me out.
Speaker B:Let's get.
Speaker B:Let's get to these.
Speaker A:I'm ready for these topics.
Speaker A:What topics you got for us?
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker B:Well, you know, we're gonna start off real strong here, because Alex being a freaking weasel.
Speaker B:Let's start off with top.
Speaker B:We'll give you all five topics.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And then we'll get into them.
Speaker B:Dog character and performance.
Speaker B:Human dog relationship comedy and situational humor.
Speaker B:Action and adventure elements, Emotional resonance and heartwarming moments.
Speaker B:So far of our versus movies, these topics are banging.
Speaker A:Like, how do we get this deep of topics with these two movies?
Speaker B:I'm getting better at my prompts, and I should have done that for the others, but it was a lot easier for me to be like, I know what I want out of.
Speaker B:I specifically said.
Speaker B:Because it gave me the boring topics before.
Speaker B:And I was like, no, can we give me at least one where I want to rate dog versus dog?
Speaker B:And then Chatgpt got smarter was like, oh, I think he wants more of these things.
Speaker B:I'm learning the work with AI Instead of fighting it like Alec is.
Speaker B:Anyways, so we digress.
Speaker B:Let's start with, you know, and we're going to give the floor to Alec so we get his opinion out of the way.
Speaker B:Dog character and performance.
Speaker B:Who did it?
Speaker C:Canine.
Speaker C:The dog was way better in canine because this thing was a genius dog.
Speaker A:True.
Speaker A:It's true.
Speaker C:There's.
Speaker C:There's no comparison in dog performance.
Speaker C:The dog at canine, Rando or whatever his name was.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Way better, hands down.
Speaker A:Was it Rando?
Speaker B:No, Jerry Lee.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Jerry Lee's the dog.
Speaker A:The actual.
Speaker A:Actual dog named Rando.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Well, I mean, you're looking at two different types of performances, though, aren't you?
Speaker B:Because Hooch, like, that's what I'm taking into the account.
Speaker B:Like, Hooch is playing more like my Mr.
Speaker B:Him, Bubba, and Dubricans.
Speaker B:Like, he's definitely more of a Hooch than he is a Jerry Lee.
Speaker B:Like, I and Jay having three dogs.
Speaker B:He's got three very, very different dogs in three very different dog parks.
Speaker B:He's where he's probably got his one that's close to Jerry Lee, and we'll let you say who that is.
Speaker B:And then he's probably got his Hooch and my dog Koa is.
Speaker B:He's.
Speaker B:He's not naughty like Hooch, but he's definitely on the dumber side, like, just to say that.
Speaker B:And I appreciated both performances, but, man, I, I.
Speaker B:In terms of the endearment and the dog that played the role that they were asked to play better, I mean, I got to give it the canine.
Speaker B:Canine just.
Speaker B:He was a scene stealer for me, just because.
Speaker B:And I think the other reason being is because the acting in canine, like, from a human perspective, was subpar at best at times.
Speaker B:Where in Turner and Hooch, like, young Tom Hanks isn't always my favorite, but he's a far better actor than anyone in canine.
Speaker B:Like, by, like a country bible, for instance.
Speaker B:And so I think without Jerry.
Speaker B:Whatever the real dog's name is, again, Jerry Lee and K9 and what they did to humanize it, I really think this movie would have just sucked completely.
Speaker B:Where, like, Turner and Hooch, I think it had a lot more going for it.
Speaker B:And the dog was more of a complimentary piece there.
Speaker B:Where in K9, like, without Jerry Lee and that dog acting like, I just don't think the movie would have done anything for me.
Speaker A:Yeah, I think.
Speaker A:I agree.
Speaker A:I think Jerry Lee, K9, is the better dog performance.
Speaker A:You're not wrong.
Speaker A:I have a Jerry Lee and I have a Hooch.
Speaker A:And Daisy, my little hound dog, is all Hooch.
Speaker A:I cannot tell you.
Speaker A:For example, there's been a couple mornings.
Speaker A:So she.
Speaker A:She's a chewer, as most of them are.
Speaker A:And we.
Speaker A:But the difference is, is she has an immense amount of toys.
Speaker A:Like, it's disgusting how many toys the dogs have.
Speaker B:We have over 100 toys in this house alone.
Speaker B:And he has another 50 in her office.
Speaker A:Dude, I'm telling you, like, toys everywhere.
Speaker A:But guess what I wake up to?
Speaker A:I have a bookshelf that sits right here next to me, okay?
Speaker A:And the door will be open or whatever, and she'll come in and out and move around.
Speaker A:And I wake up to, oh, she has a million toys.
Speaker A:They're all laying in the floor in this room.
Speaker A:You know, it's all chewed up.
Speaker A:My books from my books shelf.
Speaker A:Like, she'll pull that.
Speaker A:She loves books.
Speaker A:So now I've had to rearrange and move my.
Speaker A:Because that's what she does.
Speaker A:But I also have Jerry Lee, and that's Zoe, my husky.
Speaker A:That dog is just too smart, too manipulative.
Speaker A:Like, she'll use her sisters.
Speaker A:She's like, she wants to be.
Speaker A:I can't even say the word because they'll lose their minds.
Speaker A:But I.
Speaker A:They want to be out constantly, her and the baby.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Sasha's old enough.
Speaker A:She doesn't.
Speaker A:She's like, whatever.
Speaker A:I don't just lay around and be lazy.
Speaker A:But Zoe wants to always be out, and so does Daisy.
Speaker A:Well, Zoe will literally, she'll come and ask.
Speaker A:Like, she'll sit in front of me and huff at me, and she'll want to go out, and then I'll say no, and then she'll go and trigger Daisy, who's my hooch.
Speaker A:So Zoe doesn't want to be a bad dog.
Speaker A:So she does a lot of what, like Jerry Lee, where, like, if you say something, she'll be like and, like, hide or whatever.
Speaker A:Daisy doesn't give a.
Speaker A:So what Zoe will do is go get Daisy worked up.
Speaker A:Daisy then will come in front of me and start yakking at me like Jerry Lee.
Speaker A:But, like, she'll knit, she'll yip, and she'll moan and groan and whine and boss, we call it.
Speaker A:She's doing her bossy.
Speaker A:So she'll sit in front of me, and it's so annoying that I have to get up and let her out because she won't quit no matter what.
Speaker A:So I bark back at her and whine bad at earlier.
Speaker A:But, yeah, I love.
Speaker A:So, yes, canine has by far the better.
Speaker A:But I have a problem because I love that droopy face dog.
Speaker A:Like, I love the hound dog.
Speaker A:Like, Mastiff, which Hooch is a French mastiff or a dog Du Bordeaux is what they actually their actual name, but French Mastiff.
Speaker A:I love that floppy jowl look.
Speaker A:And so from a perspective of, like, seeing Hooch, Like, I just love looking at Hooch.
Speaker A:Like, I'd love to just grab a hold of Hooch's cheeks.
Speaker A:And that dog's name's Beasley, by the way, in that movie.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I give it to K9 in that one from the dog performance, but it's a close one.
Speaker A:I love Hooch.
Speaker B:All right, now let's jump into the human dog relationship Alex started.
Speaker B:We'll go, J.J.
Speaker B:oh, man, this one's tough.
Speaker A:And I think it relates.
Speaker A:If I were to look at it from the relationship of what the dog performance, then I would give it to canine, but I'm giving this one to Turner and Hooch.
Speaker A:And I think that's because, to me, that one plays more realistically the relationship between them than canine does.
Speaker A:K9 is always over the top.
Speaker A:That movie, like, it was geared to just be in your face, over the top, make you Laugh, have a good time, find it cute.
Speaker A:Whereas Turner Hooch does try to find some realistic places where, even though it has some comedic.
Speaker A:So I think that relationship between the two of them.
Speaker A:One of my favorite moments of both of these movies is when they're walking through the house and he's like, given the rules, there's the rules.
Speaker A:No barking, no sniffing crotches.
Speaker A:This is not your room.
Speaker A:But he's showing him, no drooling, no chewing.
Speaker A:This is not your room.
Speaker A:And then he.
Speaker A:So he's like, I love that moment.
Speaker A:And I think it's partly because I've never had that conversation, Right?
Speaker A:But I've had conversations with my dog or dogs that, like, in my head, I'm like, I am a ridiculous human being right now because they don't understand a word I'm saying.
Speaker A:But I'm still having this conversation.
Speaker A:And so I really like that relationship between Tom Hanks's character between Turner and Hooch, because it feels more real to me.
Speaker A:Whereas with Canine and Jerry Lee and Dooley, like, it's played to be in a movie.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, it's over the top, it's silly, it's weird, it's goofy.
Speaker A:And while I love it, I lean more towards Tuner and Hooch, their relationship, because it feels more real to me than played.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:But both are just entertaining as hell and fun and cute, and I like them.
Speaker B:I like.
Speaker B:Go for it.
Speaker C:I'm gonna agree with JJ Turned Hooch is a better portrayed relationship, I think, between dog and Human.
Speaker C:You have almost like the Turner.
Speaker C:Turner Hooch could be a movie where there is no Hooch, and it still plays out pretty much the same.
Speaker C:And so Hooch is that supporting kind of character that you have this relationship.
Speaker C:The same thing you would with any side character.
Speaker C:Canine rando Jerry Lee is the main character.
Speaker C:And so it's a little bit tricky because now you have Jim Belushi playing almost the Hooch roll.
Speaker C:That makes any sense.
Speaker C:And Jerry Lee's Scott Turner.
Speaker C:And so it just.
Speaker C:It's a little bit weird.
Speaker C:But at the same time, I mean, I.
Speaker C:It kind of works for Canine, sorta.
Speaker C:But, yeah, I'm gonna give it Turner and Hooch.
Speaker B:Look, if you had asked me this at the very beginning of starting K9, I mean, it would have been an easy turn on Hooch.
Speaker B:Like, I love Tom Hanks, like, kind of.
Speaker B:No question.
Speaker B:But I hearing both you talk about it, I think the way it's split out makes a lot of sense to me.
Speaker B:If you're looking for What a realistic human to dog relationship would look like, especially in the way that it's introduced in Turner and Hooch.
Speaker B:For someone that's not really a dog person doesn't really care and actually grows to love that dog.
Speaker B:In time, it's probably going to be Turner and Hooch just because of the way they portray.
Speaker B:Like, the.
Speaker B:Jay talked about the scene about, don't do that, don't do that, to do that.
Speaker B:And the dog breaks all that.
Speaker B:You get pissed, but you go through it.
Speaker B:Canine is more over the top, a hundred percent.
Speaker B:It's played up.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's certainly less realistic.
Speaker B:But man, like, I just love it.
Speaker B:Like, I just think it's so great.
Speaker B:I love the ridiculousness of it.
Speaker B:Like a dog in a hospital.
Speaker B:He forces his way like, you're gonna fix his dog.
Speaker A:You're gonna.
Speaker A:You're gonna help.
Speaker B:He's like, no, they wouldn't, but they do.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker B:Hard to turn my boy Hanks.
Speaker B:But I'm gonna give it the canine.
Speaker B:Like, I just love the monologue that Jim Bellucci gets in this movie.
Speaker B:Just.
Speaker B:Just ration Jerry Lee, like, the rash of her broke his mirror.
Speaker B:He pooped in his closet.
Speaker B:He smells like.
Speaker B:And he just goes after him.
Speaker B:And I remember texting JJ I didn't like the acting in K9, especially the opening scene where he's in the other car and then his car gets shot up and he's like so deadpan about it.
Speaker B:I was like, dude, like, you basically just died.
Speaker B:Like, you should have died.
Speaker B:Like, let's have some more inflection.
Speaker B:Like, it's.
Speaker B:But then I really feel like the chemistry between him and the dog developed a lot where those monologues, we just rip it into him.
Speaker B:I was like, this actually works and works quite well when he's like, they're going at it.
Speaker B:He's just not so good when he's having to do it with other human beings so much.
Speaker B:I just really like their chemistry.
Speaker B:I thought it was great.
Speaker B:And not that Turner and Hooch wasn't.
Speaker B:But I just think the over the top nature, like.
Speaker B:Like, you guys always get on me for not laughing.
Speaker B:Like, man.
Speaker B:And as we'll get to the next topic, like, canine just had me going.
Speaker B:And I think it's just because I could.
Speaker B:I could think of a lot of different dogs and you just would love to see.
Speaker B:So you're always like, what would my dog say?
Speaker B:What would my dog do?
Speaker B:And we don't really want to know.
Speaker B:Because if they were talking, especially Jay's situation, the Three dogs.
Speaker B:He would be going crazy.
Speaker B:I'm sure he's thought about, like, man, it'd be kind of cool.
Speaker B:Like, what if they talk to me more canine?
Speaker B:Really got that going for me.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I will say some of the dialogue, like, I love the moment where they.
Speaker A:They have the warehouse, I think.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:And he's like, man, you really lost it in there.
Speaker A:We could have been killed.
Speaker A:He's like, I needed you, like, that caught, like, where he's.
Speaker A:I will give you that.
Speaker A:I do love, like, the actual normal conversations that they have.
Speaker A:But again, it goes back to Alex point of Jerry Lee being, like, really the lead character, because he's, like, ripping him, but he, like, hides.
Speaker A:Then he looks up, like, so he's got his own personality.
Speaker B:So freaking cute.
Speaker A:Oh, dude, it's.
Speaker A:It's adorable, and I love it.
Speaker A:But, yeah, no, I.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I hear what you're saying, for sure.
Speaker B:All right, so number three, comedy and situational humor.
Speaker B:I just.
Speaker B:I'm just gonna.
Speaker B:Again, actually, I don't know if I can say.
Speaker B:Can I say the r word on YouTube?
Speaker C:Like, Rando, that's fine.
Speaker C:Than a word to say.
Speaker A:I mean, look, say it.
Speaker A:The worst thing they're gonna do.
Speaker A:We're not monetized.
Speaker A:So, yeah, just.
Speaker A:Yeah, the.
Speaker B:The line when Dooley's telling his girlfriend Tracy about, like, the.
Speaker B:The dog and, like, his behavior and his intelligence, and she's like, he doesn't seem very smart.
Speaker B:Then he responds, he's not retarded.
Speaker B:He's just shy, dude.
Speaker B:I mean, Tay and I always die.
Speaker B:Like, I've quoted that multiple times since I've seen the movie.
Speaker B:It just makes me laugh.
Speaker B:So funny.
Speaker B:I was like.
Speaker B:Because, you know, I mean, when you own dogs, like, like, my.
Speaker B:My Mr.
Speaker B:Him Bubba kins.
Speaker B:He.
Speaker B:Bless his heart, he's a well demeanored.
Speaker B:One of the.
Speaker B:I mean, everyone says how well behaved he is.
Speaker B:He's a service dog.
Speaker B:He goes to Tay's work.
Speaker B:He's.
Speaker B:He gets professional pets.
Speaker B:He takes on people's emotions.
Speaker B:Very emotionally intelligent, but, man, he is not a smart guy.
Speaker B:Like, if he just.
Speaker B:There's not a lot going on upstairs.
Speaker B:And that line, I think, just hit me to the core.
Speaker B:And I was like, yep.
Speaker B:I mean, I might be saying the same thing about my dog.
Speaker B:That line right there, dude, that freaking killed me.
Speaker B:And I think that's just a further.
Speaker B:If you zoom out from that.
Speaker B:As we talked about the monologues, like, the monologues just with Dooley, Jerry Lee, like, they just make me laugh, dude.
Speaker B:And the mannerisms of the dog, Jerry Lee, just the humanizing of it.
Speaker B:Like, you knew when he put him in the car in the.
Speaker B:The bar scene, or maybe it was the different scene, but he tied him to the.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:The little rear view mirror, the side view mirror, you knew it was coming off.
Speaker B:You're like, dude, you.
Speaker B:You need.
Speaker B:You need to know your dog.
Speaker B:And he comes up in the country club and he's there.
Speaker B:You're like, oh, he did that.
Speaker B:Or when he chews him out after the bar scene, as Jay talked about.
Speaker B:Or that was a warehouse scene at the bar scene, when he saves his life, basically, and he's pissed off, but he's also, like, really thankful.
Speaker B:There's just so many.
Speaker B:I just love all those interactions.
Speaker B:It makes me.
Speaker B:Makes me laugh.
Speaker B:Or the hospital scene, as I've talked about.
Speaker B:Like, I love all of it.
Speaker B:But then there's the Turner Hoot side of it.
Speaker B:I think it's funnier because of Tom Hanks, and I think he does a good job making those scenes memorable in reacting to what the dog has done.
Speaker B:But it's more about Hanks than it is about the dog.
Speaker B:And to an extent, both are really funny.
Speaker B:But no, man, like, the humor in canine.
Speaker B:It got me.
Speaker B:Like, it.
Speaker B:I was.
Speaker B:There's multiple points.
Speaker B:I mean, I.
Speaker B:I really laughed during that movie.
Speaker B:But that, that line, he's not retarded, he's just shy.
Speaker B:It just kills me.
Speaker B:It just.
Speaker B:It's so funny.
Speaker B:I want to go back and watch that scene today because I just died.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:No, it's.
Speaker A:It's funny.
Speaker A:This one's tough for me because I laugh equally at both of these movies, I think.
Speaker A:I think to your point, what you were talking about there at the ms, and it's.
Speaker A:The dynamic is a little different and why I'm laughing is a little different.
Speaker A:And I think canine.
Speaker A:I'm laughing because the comedy's well written and the conversations between the two are well written.
Speaker A:And so I giggle, like, and then there's.
Speaker A:There's lines where it plays off the dog that have nothing to do with the dog, really.
Speaker A:Like, we're.
Speaker A:He's like, do you have a search warrant?
Speaker A:He's like, the dog ate it.
Speaker A:You can hang out by his tail if you want.
Speaker A:Like, that kind of dialogue.
Speaker A:And then the one you're talking about, like, that involves Jerry Lee and whatnot.
Speaker A:Like, it makes me laugh and it's endearing.
Speaker A:I will say this about Jim Belushi.
Speaker A:He's only famous because his brother was Hilarious.
Speaker A:And so it's like.
Speaker A:And in my opinion, he's not a great actor, but for some reason, his over the top ridiculousness works really well in this movie.
Speaker B:It did.
Speaker A:And so I.
Speaker A:I do laugh a lot.
Speaker A:I think with Turner and Hooch.
Speaker A:I laugh because it's so relatable to me.
Speaker A:And to your point, you're not wrong.
Speaker A:Like, Tom Hanks is funny.
Speaker A:And the.
Speaker A:In his reactions to Hooch are funny.
Speaker A:Like, one of the greatest scenes in that movie to me when it comes to comedy is when he.
Speaker A:He thinks he's smart and he puts him outside and the dog's losing his the whole time.
Speaker A:And the neighbor starts yelling like, get him a Valium.
Speaker A:In fact, you take one too.
Speaker A:Do you want your car towed?
Speaker A:I'm a cop.
Speaker A:Like, and then the dog runs in and locks him out.
Speaker A:Like, hilarious.
Speaker A:But it's Tom Hanks that makes him funny.
Speaker A:Re.
Speaker A:You know, reacting to Hooch and even the rules thing.
Speaker A:Or when he comes home and the dog has just destroyed the house and he's holding up the broken record and dripping slobber off of everything.
Speaker A:His reactions are great.
Speaker A:I'm gonna give the comedy.
Speaker A:Oh, I'm gonna give the Comedy to K9 because it's designed to be in your face funny and like, just laugh out loud.
Speaker A:But it's.
Speaker A:That's a really hard one for me to choose.
Speaker A:I'm only choosing because I hear Alec in my head.
Speaker A:Pick a side.
Speaker A:But, like, like, that's what I can't.
Speaker A:I want to say Turner and Hooch because I think I laugh harder at Turner and Hooch, but I laugh more at canine.
Speaker A:Like, more laughs.
Speaker A:Just Turner, Hooch.
Speaker A:I laugh harder because of the relatability for it.
Speaker B:To me, jj, he's not retarded.
Speaker A:He's just shy.
Speaker A:Dog ate it.
Speaker A:Freaking love it.
Speaker B:Internet Hooch.
Speaker B:For me, it's the.
Speaker B:The car scene.
Speaker B:You're eating the car.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:Like that.
Speaker B:That part.
Speaker B:That part gets me.
Speaker B:But again, it's because of Tom Hanks.
Speaker B:The reactions are great, but I know it's Alex turn.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna give it Turner and Hooch.
Speaker C:I like the way they set up the film.
Speaker C:So in the first 30 seconds, right after you've seen the.
Speaker C:The title image or whatever, they let you know how much of a clean freak Tom Hanks is without saying it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Steam pressing his pants, he's wiping everything down.
Speaker C:Everything's got its place.
Speaker C:And Hooch is one of those droopy face dogs that just slobber.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker C:And so you Know exactly where this is going, and it doesn't disappoint.
Speaker C:So then you get these relatable moments where, like, the outside scene, he gets locked out.
Speaker C:Hilarious.
Speaker C:But even before that, when he first goes to, like, say bye to Amos, and he's got the muffin, and he's just trying.
Speaker C:He's doing that thing where.
Speaker C:Take the muffin, Hooch.
Speaker B:Take the muffin.
Speaker C:Hooch, Hooch.
Speaker C:And you know what's coming.
Speaker C:You can see coming from a mile away.
Speaker C:And it's.
Speaker C:It's the comedy from canine.
Speaker C:I laughed, but at a certain point, I got worn out with the whole.
Speaker C:The dog is responding to every single thing that said to it.
Speaker C:And I.
Speaker C:It wore me out to the point where, like, near the middle.
Speaker C:Middle end of the movie, I was like, I don't care anymore.
Speaker A:Like, shut up.
Speaker C:And so I'm giving it Turner huge.
Speaker A:It's fair.
Speaker A:It was a tough choice for me.
Speaker A:It was.
Speaker A:It was.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:Action and adventure elements.
Speaker B:Who's up?
Speaker B:Is it me to go first?
Speaker A:Now you can.
Speaker A:Let's do it.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker B:I think it's canine, if you think about.
Speaker B:I think there's more scenes.
Speaker B:You got more scenes of tension.
Speaker B:You've got the warehouse, you've got the bar.
Speaker B:I mean, you had.
Speaker B:The movie started with the main character almost dying, getting shot up.
Speaker B:There's the.
Speaker B:I mean, the.
Speaker B:The main shootout at the.
Speaker B:At the end, the protagonist getting right.
Speaker B:Did I say there is protagonist, the bad guy?
Speaker B:I always confuse that.
Speaker B:Or is that the attack?
Speaker B:Yeah, antagonist getting shot up.
Speaker B:I just think there's more scenes of.
Speaker B:Of action, intention in canine to an extent.
Speaker B:I know there's definitely some in Turner and Hooch, but I think it's portrayed in more of a satirical nature.
Speaker B:And canine definitely leans into more of the serious nature a little bit.
Speaker B:I don't mind either of them.
Speaker B:They're not the reasons I'm watching the movie.
Speaker B:Like, even rating which one had more did it better?
Speaker B:Like, it's not the reason I would go back and watch either of these things, but I think it's a little bit more of canine story.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:I appreciate the.
Speaker B:The antagonist and canine a little bit more than I do in Turner and Hooch.
Speaker B:For me, personally, I really like the scene of Dually going into that dinner and just doing his thing with the intact.
Speaker B:And I like their scenes of coming at each other.
Speaker B:So for that, I mean, I.
Speaker B:For me, I think it's canine.
Speaker A:Go ahead, Alec.
Speaker C:It's tricky because, like, I mean, it's canine, but something that I hated about both.
Speaker C:And this is a total 80s, like, 90s trope is the bad guys always ex Special Forces.
Speaker C:Why.
Speaker C:Why is this the case?
Speaker C:But it's, it's.
Speaker C:It's almost like Turner and Hooch is straight comedy with a little bit of added drama thrown in.
Speaker C:And canine is like both in equal parts in a way.
Speaker C:And so there's far more action or adventure coming out of canine to the point where you have those serious moments, I'll say.
Speaker C:Or a little bit more drama filled, a little bit more, you know, there's actual consequences on the line.
Speaker C:Whereas Turner and Hooch, it plays like it's the.
Speaker C:The first 90s movie, even though it came out in 89.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:Right at the point where it's the, oh, big shocker, the small town police chief is the bad guy.
Speaker C:You know, like, oh, thank you very much type of a thing.
Speaker C:So, I mean, it goes to canine.
Speaker C:An adventure.
Speaker A:Yeah, I agree.
Speaker A:I think as much as I want it to be a tough Choice, it's not K9 for action.
Speaker A:And I think kind of what you're hinting there toward Alec, is the same as what I'm thinking.
Speaker A:Like K9 to me, is a buddy cop movie just with a dog instead of.
Speaker B:That's not a bad way.
Speaker A:I mean, and, and, and so it's designed to be action filled and the comedy around, like, it's like, what am I trying to.
Speaker A:Which movie am I?
Speaker A:It's like Bad Boys with a cop, with a dog.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like, it's designed to have this action and how they react with each other in between the action scenes.
Speaker A:And so by nature, I think it was designed to win.
Speaker A:Whereas Turner and Hooch is more of like a character development of this cop that like you say we see right out the gate, that he's OCD as hell and wants his life a certain way.
Speaker A:And this dog comes in and completely changes it, right down to the fact that he meets this vet who he falls for.
Speaker A:And so it's more of a character development type story that involves this dog and has a couple action scenes, whereas canine is just.
Speaker A:Let's play this to the.
Speaker A:The Nines about.
Speaker A:We're gonna have explosions and gunfights and.
Speaker B:Explosions.
Speaker A:Explosions, yeah.
Speaker A:So when you're gonna get all those cool things.
Speaker A:So, yeah, for me, canine action adventure takes it for sure.
Speaker B:All right, Alec, bring us home with emotional resonance and heartwarming moments.
Speaker C:Can't say.
Speaker C:Neither can I.
Speaker C:I was gonna.
Speaker B:I was gonna say the cold blooded Alec over here.
Speaker C:Emotional moments.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker C:You know what?
Speaker C:I think I'll just give it to Turner and Hooch, because I think it went 2K9, 1 Turner and huge.
Speaker C:So let's even it up.
Speaker C:Go.
Speaker C:No reason why, except for twosies.
Speaker B:There was.
Speaker B:There was actually five topics, so you.
Speaker C:Could have done that, but, well, two and a half.
Speaker C:We'll split right down the road.
Speaker C:They both.
Speaker B:All right, jj, some of that on a dog.
Speaker B:Let's.
Speaker B:Let's talk, man.
Speaker A:This one's tough because I think they both have some really good emotional moments.
Speaker A:And especially from.
Speaker A:And again, I'm speaking from a perspective of a dog owner.
Speaker A:Like, my dogs are my kids.
Speaker A:Like, I.
Speaker A:I love my dogs.
Speaker A:And so I think both have some really strong moments.
Speaker A:I think I'm gonna let Turner and Hooch edges this one out for me again, because I think for two reasons.
Speaker A:One, the relationship feels a little more realistic to me because.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And some of that comes from.
Speaker A:Because of how over the top actiony K9 is.
Speaker A:Like, there is a certain level of.
Speaker A:Of suspension of disbelief that you have to have that these two survive some of this stuff and that this dog is disciplined enough to run into these explosions and gunfights and state.
Speaker A:And I know, look, canine cops are bitching and cool, and they're awesome dogs, but they're still dogs and animals.
Speaker A:With Turner and Hooch, I think, again, that relationships is.
Speaker A:Is much more realistic to me from a human and dog.
Speaker A:And then the second piece is.
Speaker A:And spoilers.
Speaker A:If you haven't seen these and you're listening to us, don't.
Speaker A:I'm about to spoil the ending.
Speaker A:Like, the fact that you have that emotional weight at the end.
Speaker A:Like, I love that Jerry Lee lives.
Speaker A:And that moment is hilarious.
Speaker A:Like, where he's.
Speaker A:Where Dooley's pouring his heart out to him and he opens his eyes.
Speaker A:Did you just open your eye?
Speaker A:Like, sitting here, pouring my heart.
Speaker A:Great scene.
Speaker A:Very emotional.
Speaker A:You're planning on it, but with Turner and Hooch, the fact that Hooch doesn't come out of this right, like.
Speaker A:And that's heartbreaking, and it's difficult, especially based on the relationship that they built.
Speaker A:And so, for me, I like.
Speaker A:As much as I hate it, I also like it because, again, it has that weight and that emotional draw of having to now deal with the fact that this dog has.
Speaker A:Has saved Turner's life, but paid the ultimate price for it, right?
Speaker A:And they.
Speaker A:Then they soften it up by having the puppy come in and being an absolute terror and being just like Hooch again.
Speaker A:But I like that so I'm gonna give it to Turner, Turner and Hooch on this one.
Speaker A:That emotional just has different beats, and to me, much more weighty beats on both sides.
Speaker B:Yeah, I think if you would have asked me at the beginning, I would have given it easily to Turner and Hooch.
Speaker B:It still does win out.
Speaker B:I think the movie was designed to be more heartwarming and have that emotional connection.
Speaker B:I think, like Jay said, being a dog owner and it has more that authentic feel.
Speaker B:That being said, if when I had started canine, I would have just said it's more over the top and fun.
Speaker B:But when you get towards the end of it, the reason that scene in the hospital is so funny with the monologue and Jerry Lee, like, peeking out, not peeking out, is because you've come to love, like, the relationship between the two.
Speaker B:And you're like, oh, yeah, he's just razzing him again, like, on death's doorstep, and he's still just poking one at Dooley.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:Well, that's also.
Speaker B:While it's funny, it's also like, you see the progression of the, like, warmth and the connection between the two, just like in Turner and Hooch.
Speaker B:But I think I came to appreciating K9, and in Turner and Hooch, I think it was always there.
Speaker B:And for that reason, I.
Speaker B:I think Turner Hooch wins out on that.
Speaker A:Yeah, I will say that.
Speaker A:K9, like, one.
Speaker A:One of my favorite things is when a dog does put the paws over their snap thing.
Speaker A:Because, like, my dogs do it all the time.
Speaker A:Especially the one sitting behind me right here, Zoe.
Speaker A:She'll.
Speaker A:She'd lay down and put her paws over top, and it's the cutest thing.
Speaker A:And canine, I think started me down that.
Speaker A:Because Jerry Lee does that so often when he's hiding or when he's.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah, anyway, I.
Speaker A:Yeah, both these movies are just so freaking nostalgic for me.
Speaker B:But, yeah, all right, Jay, they're your movies, so rate them.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:God, this is so hard for me.
Speaker A:I'm gonna give canine a four and a half, and I'm gonna give Turner and Hooch a five.
Speaker B:You see Ali's face?
Speaker A:Yeah, I know.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That's because Alec, in this situation, five, though.
Speaker A:These.
Speaker A:That's a five to me, it's a five.
Speaker A:Look, and I.
Speaker A:There's a level of nostalgia that goes with that for me, but, like, five I could watch just like with the others.
Speaker A:And normally I call Matson the heartless bastard in this podcast, but because he's a redheaded.
Speaker A:But Alex, like, really Hurting my soul right now with the anger level that he's got for this, the disdain I see in his eyes.
Speaker A:No, look, Turner and Hooch to me, like, I could watch it any day.
Speaker A:Like, it's heartwarming.
Speaker A:It crushes my soul.
Speaker A:But I have this just absolute love of that relationship.
Speaker A:And to me, like, Tom Hanks and.
Speaker A:And this just is funny.
Speaker A:It's heartwarming.
Speaker A:Like, I can relate to the relationship that these two have outside.
Speaker A:Like, in any situation, take away the police and the investigation and all that weird stuff.
Speaker A:Just this absolute hilarious relationship that they have.
Speaker A:That, to me, is realistic because no matter how pissed at first, it's.
Speaker A:He has to have this dog here.
Speaker A:But then by the end, it's just like, man, he can't, like, live without a stock.
Speaker A:And he's adapted his life to his dogs.
Speaker A:And I can relate to that on so many levels.
Speaker A:Like, I adapt my life.
Speaker A:We.
Speaker A:Casey and I adapt our lives to our dogs.
Speaker A:There are kids.
Speaker A:They're our family.
Speaker A:That's just how it is, I think.
Speaker A:The difference between me and.
Speaker A:As much as I love the movie from canine.
Speaker A:And it's funny, and I'm entertained by it.
Speaker A:There's.
Speaker A:It is a movie, and it feels like a movie, and it feels fake, and I can't quite relate, even though there's a lot of things I can relate to.
Speaker A:The unrealistic nature of the back and forth between Jerry Lee and Dooley and then just the wild action scenes.
Speaker A:Like, it takes away from what I love, which is the interaction between the two of them.
Speaker A:That's the funny part and the.
Speaker A:The great parts.
Speaker A:So for me, it's one of those things where it's just like, let me just watch these two.
Speaker A:This dog and these humans hang out.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But to me, Turner Hooch, like, it's one of my favorite movies of all time.
Speaker A:Love it.
Speaker A:It's great.
Speaker A:It's funny.
Speaker A:It's cute.
Speaker B:It's got a great ale.
Speaker B:We're gonna.
Speaker B:We're gonna put you as the.
Speaker B:The white center of an Oreo just to.
Speaker B:We'll get through yours quick, because I.
Speaker B:I think they'll be fast.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah, they will.
Speaker C:Canine gets a two.
Speaker C:And that two comes from the fact that this is one of the best trained dogs, I think, that has ever been on screen or just in general.
Speaker C:This dog is brilliant.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Like, that's amazing.
Speaker C:With the amount of commands this dog has to recognize to do what he was able to do.
Speaker C:Insane.
Speaker C:The movie's trash.
Speaker C:But the dog was so good.
Speaker C:And Turner and Hooch is a little bit better of a movie.
Speaker A:It's a three.
Speaker A:Heartless, soulless bastard.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:I mean, I have to be be honest, I'm quite shocked that Jay gave Turner and Hooch a five and K nine a four and a half.
Speaker B:Like, I think I.
Speaker B:I'm a little perplexed by your ratings in conjuncture of, like, what we give fives in this podcast.
Speaker B:Like, I.
Speaker B:Yeah, I'm going to give Canine a three and a half.
Speaker B:I'm going to give Turner and Hooch a three.
Speaker B:They're both.
Speaker B:I'm extremely entertained.
Speaker B:But I'm not here to say, like, when I.
Speaker B:As a man of the people, let me just, like, lay this out again.
Speaker B:When I give a five, it's a five.
Speaker B:Like, let's not, let's not get it twisted here.
Speaker B:Neither of these movies are close to a 5.
Speaker B:But is canine entertaining.
Speaker B:And I'm happy to have watched it, and I will now.
Speaker B:I have liked it so much, I'm probably going to rewatch it again in a few weeks.
Speaker B:I don't do that.
Speaker B:Like, I'm blown away.
Speaker B:I told Jay, I'm so happy.
Speaker B:If nothing else, this month has given me a new movie that I will probably watch at least, like, once a year or something.
Speaker B:Like, so thankful for that.
Speaker B:Turner and Hooch.
Speaker B:Like, I don't have a strong connection to it.
Speaker B:Like, I like Tom Hanks, but canine, I definitely do now.
Speaker B:Like, that movie struck a chord with me, and I'm just so grateful to have experienced it.
Speaker B:I just gave 0.5 more to Kane.
Speaker B:I just.
Speaker B:It made me laugh, dude.
Speaker B:Like, I.
Speaker B:I know I'll laugh again.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:It's quotable.
Speaker A:It.
Speaker B:It's cute.
Speaker B:I love that dog.
Speaker B:And I love the monologue with Dooley.
Speaker B:I don't dislike Turner and Hooch.
Speaker B:I just think it's.
Speaker B:It's not as funny.
Speaker B:And for what I want, if I'm gonna watch these movies, I like the over the top a little bit more.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:If I want heartwarming, I think I'll.
Speaker B:I don't know, I'll turn to something else.
Speaker B:But I just.
Speaker B:Dude, give me more Jerry Lee.
Speaker B:But a five for Turner and Hooch and a four and a half for Canaan.
Speaker B:Like, that just feels a little broken.
Speaker B:Jay.
Speaker A:Hey, look, man, I am usually very objective.
Speaker B:Are you?
Speaker A:Usually?
Speaker A:You.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:I mean, usually.
Speaker B:But your credibility might be a little trash now.
Speaker B:I mean, we already, we already know that you got problems with comedy, so.
Speaker C:Like, your credibility is the worst.
Speaker C:You're the worst.
Speaker A:Look, I'm You.
Speaker A:I try very hard to be objective, but I will freely admit that my object.
Speaker A:Objectivity is out the window with these two movies.
Speaker A:This one is pure 8 year old JJ.
Speaker B:I mean, you do really.
Speaker B:You love.
Speaker B:I love my dog.
Speaker B:But I know if we had a love meter of dogs, you would be higher than me.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, we've had this conversation.
Speaker A:I think I thoroughly offended you because I told you I'd try to save my dogs before I tried to save you in a fire, but.
Speaker C:You got offended by that.
Speaker C:That's an easy answer.
Speaker A:I mean, save truth.
Speaker A:It holds true for you too, Alex.
Speaker A:Sorry.
Speaker A:I'm picking my dog.
Speaker C:Oh.
Speaker A:But 100.
Speaker B:I try to save Jay first, but I think I told him that it would be a little difficult.
Speaker A:I would say.
Speaker C:Jj, I appreciate that.
Speaker A:So, yeah, no, I mean this.
Speaker A:I am completely unadulterated.
Speaker A:Undeniably.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker B:It makes me feel a little bit better.
Speaker B:I'm surprised that you went that high.
Speaker A:Yeah, no, because I.
Speaker A:And it's purely from an entertainment perspective for me.
Speaker A:Like, I could watch either of these movies anytime because I.
Speaker A:They to me, make me feel real good.
Speaker A:Like, I just like these movies a lot.
Speaker A:Like, and I.
Speaker A:I really want a French freaking mastiff.
Speaker A:I'll never own one, but I want one.
Speaker A:Every time I see kids that much.
Speaker B:Slobber, it's too much.
Speaker A:Ah, yeah, the slobber's a little rough.
Speaker A:And they're that look.
Speaker A:Because they're really smart.
Speaker A:Like, that's.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I would never own a German shepherd either.
Speaker A:I would love to, but they're.
Speaker A:They're super smart.
Speaker A:My house isn't entertaining enough for a German shepherd.
Speaker A:That's the problem.
Speaker A:We like to lays around and hang out.
Speaker A:It's hard enough keeping my husky entertained.
Speaker A:But the problem with yeah, mastiffs.
Speaker A:One, I love a big dog, but that's a big ass dog.
Speaker A:This movie doesn't do any justice.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I met him in person.
Speaker B:I was blown away.
Speaker B:I was like, yeah, no, not sit on my lap.
Speaker B:He passed that stage many moons ago, my friend.
Speaker A:Their heads are like as big as both of all my dogs right now.
Speaker A:But like, yeah, mastiffs are huge.
Speaker A:But I love all that droopy face, slobbery.
Speaker A:Like, I just want to just.
Speaker B:You make out with your dogs, Jay?
Speaker A:No, I don't make out with my dogs.
Speaker A:I do let my dogs give me kisses on the face, but I don't.
Speaker B:Make out on, like, willingly.
Speaker B:Lots of kisses.
Speaker B:Like, on the mouth area, not on the mouth.
Speaker A:Like, I'm not like, I'm not like, if they go to kiss my mouth, they get away with it.
Speaker A:And I'm like, stop it.
Speaker A:But, like, cheeks, forehead, face.
Speaker A:Yeah, I let that happen all day long.
Speaker A:Except for my old one right now.
Speaker A:Her breath is really, really, really, really bad.
Speaker A:Like, because she's old.
Speaker B:How.
Speaker B:Basically give me kisses.
Speaker B:Because I give him kisses all the time.
Speaker B:But if.
Speaker B:If I have seen him recently lick his.
Speaker B:His butt region, then I'm like, you know what?
Speaker B:We're gonna wait a little bit.
Speaker B:We're gonna push that away for a second.
Speaker A:Yeah, no, yeah, obviously, like, if I look over and I see my dog licking their ass, I'm not like, immediately like, hey, when you're done over there, come on over.
Speaker A:You know, like, it's not like, yeah, I mean, I let her cool off a little bit, but.
Speaker B:I'm so happy to have done that.
Speaker B:This has been one of my favorites.
Speaker A:That is a great episode in a long time.
Speaker B:All I can think about now, Jay, is, I want to watch canine with you very high.
Speaker B:That sounds like a good time.
Speaker A:It would be a great time because I laugh my ass off.
Speaker A:We'll have to do it.
Speaker B:I would.
Speaker B:Dude, I'd get tickled pink during that scene where he says he's shy, that I.
Speaker B:I'd be on the ground.
Speaker B:I might be.
Speaker A:Oh, dude.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'd laugh a lot.
Speaker B:Easy.
Speaker A:Good stuff.
Speaker B:Oh, my gosh.
Speaker A:Such a funny.
Speaker A:I love.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:There's so many quotes in both of these movies that are just great.
Speaker A:But anyway, I love the rules.
Speaker A:In turn, hoots, this is not your room.
Speaker A:This is not your room.
Speaker A:This is your room.
Speaker A:And then he butt head, butts his way out of it.
Speaker A:Oh, so good.
Speaker B:Oh, the last thing I wanted to say is the.
Speaker B:The lovemaking scene with Jerry Lee.
Speaker B:That part makes me giggle because we've never had.
Speaker B:Never experienced a dog pointing in the bed as you're trying to do the dirty.
Speaker B:But, like, sometimes they're in there and, like, you make eye contact, you're like, no, gotta stop.
Speaker B:Gotta pause.
Speaker B:You gotta eat.
Speaker B:We just.
Speaker B:You gotta.
Speaker B:You gotta be out.
Speaker B:Like, I don't.
Speaker B:One, don't need that pressure.
Speaker B:Two, I don't want to be seeing you right now.
Speaker B:Like, no, that.
Speaker B:That scene makes me laugh.
Speaker A:I should not tell this story, but I'm going to anyway.
Speaker A:When Casey and I used to live in South Weber, we had a townhouse.
Speaker A:And at the time we owned two dogs, not three.
Speaker A:We had a little beagle, miniature beagle, Claire, who was Casey's first dog.
Speaker A:Just sweet little dog, little tiny thing and then we had.
Speaker A:Yeah, miss her.
Speaker A:And then we had Maya, who was a husky.
Speaker A:And Maya, when.
Speaker A:When adult activities were taking place in our house, Maya left like she didn't want anything.
Speaker A:She was.
Speaker A:But Claire had this unnatural attachment to Casey.
Speaker A:Like, would try to fight my 55, 60 pound husky.
Speaker A:When Maya would come up to try to say hi to Claire, Casey, Claire would lose her.
Speaker A:Like, she was that jealous about Casey.
Speaker A:So happy adult time in our house was very awkward with clothes Claire, because she would get very jealous of me spending time with Casey.
Speaker A:And so there was a happy time happening.
Speaker A:One time we used to have a Chase Lounge.
Speaker A:Chase lounge.
Speaker A:That was really big and nice.
Speaker A:And we were on the Chase Lounge.
Speaker A:And the next thing I know, like, what the.
Speaker A:I got a slobbery beagle kiss on my left ass cheek.
Speaker A:Ruined the mood just like that.
Speaker A:So from then on, bully sticks.
Speaker A:We had to.
Speaker A:For like six years, Casey and I had to plan adult time because.
Speaker A:Or we had to buy a bunch of bully sticks.
Speaker A:We had bully sticks in a drawer in our house because it was the only thing that kept Claire distracted.
Speaker B:JJ walks in with the voice.
Speaker B:He's like, hey, baby, you have no.
Speaker A:Idea the running jokes in our house.
Speaker A:Because we would also, like, you know, spontaneously things would happen.
Speaker A:And so we'd be in the midst of like a hot, heavy makeout session, knowing where things are going, and then it's like, pause.
Speaker A:And we'd have to run and get a bully stick because otherwise.
Speaker A:So it was a constant joke in our house.
Speaker B:That's great.
Speaker A:But yeah, no, I had my ass cheek licked in the middle of the deed.
Speaker A:Stop the deed real quick.
Speaker A:I promise.
Speaker A:I never thought anything would stop the deed.
Speaker A:But that did.
Speaker A:Mood was ruined.
Speaker A:And of course, Casey just laughed because that's her style.
Speaker A:She just will still make a joke about that nowadays.
Speaker A:But anyway, probably shouldn't have told that story for Arthur 5 listeners.
Speaker A:But you know.
Speaker A:All right, Alec, tell everybody where they can find us when they're not hearing about my unfortunate stories.
Speaker C:I was gonna say this used to be a reputable podcast, but this episode has really turned left.
Speaker C:So that's week three of arbitration month.
Speaker C:And today, you know, today's episode is all about showdowns between dog's best friend.
Speaker C:So it really comes down to which you like better.
Speaker C:Go ahead and leave us a comment if you agree with our verdict.
Speaker C:I think it was Turner and Hooch for me and JJ and K9 for Matson.
Speaker C:So let's see if Matson's really a man of the people.
Speaker C:Put down in the comments if it's Turner and Hooch or canine special.
Speaker B:Thanks.
Speaker B:People don't know what is right, and I have to say.
Speaker C:Okay, well, then you're not really a man of the people people then.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker B:Last time I checked, the people like to see things in color if they could willingly vote.
Speaker B:Do you want to see black and white or color?
Speaker B:They're gonna pick color every time.
Speaker C:Okay, whatever you say, Matson.
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker A:I just love Alex Tone throughout this whole freaking.
Speaker A:Because he's just like, we're talking about dog.
Speaker B:Yeah, Alex has been.
Speaker B:I don't think I've ever seen him more annoyed about two movies than what we've done.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker C:It's been a rough hour.
Speaker C:Anyway, thanks to our patrons, CB and Rich for so no, you know, screw both of you.
Speaker C:Thank you for supporting the podcast of being patrons.
Speaker C:Patreon's place to find us at.
Speaker C:What's our verdict?
Speaker C:Reviews.
Speaker C:So you can join in and pick all the dog movies you want, everybody.
Speaker C:Anyways, with that, let's kick it back to the Wazir of WAP, the Maharaja of Mash a JJ.
Speaker A:Thanks, buddy.
Speaker A:Almost 400 episodes in in this one.
Speaker A:Ranks up.
Speaker A:There is a great one.
Speaker B:Poor, poor Will Al.
Speaker B:Don't want to do a movie.
Speaker B:Don't like the doggy.
Speaker C:Oh, I'm just channeling my inner Matson.
Speaker A:Oh, boy, it's been a fun one.
Speaker A:What a good way to kick.
Speaker A:Well, week three, it's not a kickoff or an ending.
Speaker A:We still.
Speaker A:We've had a couple before it and we got one later, so.
Speaker A:And I'm getting a hello from my little husky here, so with that, as always, we appreciate you tuning in.
Speaker A:We'll catch you on the next baby cinematic.
